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Nov 22, 2016 17:39:46 GMT
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I'm not asking because I have one, it's 2001 anyway but just realised the early ones are 21 years old now, and particularly the pre facelift ones are really looking dated now. I'm only a few years older than them, and I can't see them being a mainstream classic? Although I'm sure a few people said that about the Cortina in the 70's. What do you reckon?
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BT
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Nov 22, 2016 17:44:04 GMT
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i think they will come into their own one day.
I remember being offered a 94 cavalier when I was about 17 for £50 and I wouldn't go anywhere near the thing. Now I think they're incredibly cool.
I think they will come into their own at some point. The GSI ones I think are already a very cool car. Some of them came with the MSD V6 which the corsa lads used to like, or at least I did when I had one.
Plus, there was BTCC versions, and everyone's inner child loves a touring car!
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Nov 22, 2016 17:54:56 GMT
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  i would much rather the vectra than equivelant ford, always fancied an Sxi estate or Sri150 Saloon, remember seeing An ST200 in a local scrapyard that is the only one ive ever seen, Just to keep things fair heres a v.rare mondeo even when it was new. 2.0 Dohc 4x4  |
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Nov 22, 2016 17:55:38 GMT
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All the GSI's were MSD bud, had one myself for a bit and loved the noise, wasnt particularly fast but sounded epic on full throttle. They just seem to be throwaway cars now, saying that it's only the last few years Sierra's have come up from the depths I guess.
It was purely for BTCC reasons I bought my first Vectra saloon, in my head it was in Masterfit livery lol.
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Last Edit: Nov 22, 2016 17:57:14 GMT by astranaut
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Nov 22, 2016 18:28:50 GMT
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Don't ever listen to "that will never be a classic" know alls,,most cars become sought after when less and less of them are around
Some of the 90s rovers are superb cars and classics in waiting,the same can be said of my Mercedes W202,a good few left but not many as minty as my one,and yes the early vectra is on the cusp of being a sought after older car
I Remember buying mk1 escorts every other week for around £200 back in the 80s,now how much are they?? Nobody knew then what they would be worth.....every dog has its day as the saying goes,and by that I'm not implying the vectra is a dog btw!
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Last Edit: Nov 22, 2016 18:29:39 GMT by Mercdan68
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1993 ford escort
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Nov 22, 2016 18:37:28 GMT
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mk2 astras are nudging 35, still worthless
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Rob M
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Nov 22, 2016 19:11:12 GMT
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mk2 astras are nudging 35, still worthless .....and MK3 Escorts seem to be gaining a following. I owned both back in the day and the Astra was always way better ( my opinion only) in every department. Even the 1.3s were no slouches and would be totally capable in todays traffic. Maybe we have to salute or blame the marketing of the day for making Fords more desirable than Vauxhalls which has followed through to the Classic scene, to a greater degree. I admit it, I like Vectras. |
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Nov 22, 2016 19:13:39 GMT
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mk2 astras are nudging 35, still worthless .....and MK3 Escorts seem to be gaining a following. I owned both back in the day and the Astra was always way better ( my opinion only) in every department. Even the 1.3s were no slouches and would be totally capable in todays traffic. Maybe we have to salute or blame the marketing of the day for making Fords more desirable than Vauxhalls which has followed through to the Classic scene, to a greater degree. I admit it, I like Vectras. agree, although a sporting mk3 escort will be clear 10k ontop of equivalent spec/age astra. i don't personally think its about age at all |
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Last Edit: Nov 22, 2016 19:14:10 GMT by darrenh
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Nov 22, 2016 19:14:09 GMT
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Yes.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:26:42 GMT
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Just to keep things fair heres a v.rare mondeo even when it was new. 2.0 Dohc 4x4 That is a rare Mondeo indeed, there's no gaffa tape on the bumpers.  Actually the MK1 Mondeo was actually featured in The Torygraph's car section as a classic the other day (I borrowed someone else's copy honest!) so there you go. It's in the press so it must be true! |
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Nov 22, 2016 19:30:27 GMT
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Really like the mk1 Mondeo, mum had a few. Seem to be 10 Vectras to 1 Mondeo of equivalent age nowadays though  |
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Dez
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Nov 22, 2016 19:58:58 GMT
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The reason I will always struggle with such ideas is that when this forum appeared 12 years ago, it was pretty much as an antidote to mind numbingly boring eurobland such as mondeos and vectras, which at the time were new cars.
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Nov 22, 2016 20:02:04 GMT
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Just a matter of time before Vectra's, Mondeo's and all the other 90's stuff come into their own, can't remember the last time I saw a clean, early Vectra, especially a 'normal' non-sporty one. 10 years ago who would have though my Nissan Bluebird and other late 80's stuff would be considered classic?
The only thing that I think will affect these cars making it to becoming classics will be them actually surviving long enough, as current low values mean they are mainly seen as 'throwaway' cheap transport - Ford KAs for example, just used as cheap first cars then scrapped, will any of them survive long enough to get appreciated and restored?
Electronics will be another factor, as cars this age (and newer) are more computerised than their predecessors, and thus cost more to fix as they usually can't be repaired or rebuild at home, unless you are lucky enough to have access to diagnostic equipment, hence most are scrapped due the cost of repairs.
I'm sure some will survive though, and will probably become a familiar sight at classic car shows over the next few years. |
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Nov 22, 2016 20:09:15 GMT
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Really like the mk1 Mondeo, mum had a few. Seem to be 10 Vectras to 1 Mondeo of equivalent age nowadays though Hi, I think there's two reasons for that isn't there? The Mondeo was sought after by banger racers because of their strength and were also sought after for their engines for transplants. Colin |
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Last Edit: Nov 23, 2016 10:33:03 GMT by colnerov
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Nov 22, 2016 21:38:10 GMT
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I have to admit, I really DON'T like the Vectra B! It seems like they took a good look at the Cavalier (Vectra A) and then threw out all the best bits, like the maintainence free rear suspension and the clever gearbox that let you change a clutch in 25 mins. I love the Cavalier, have owned more than a few and currently have 2 (besides all the Dolomites). But the Vectra leaves me cold. Just my 2p worth!
No doubt when most are in the great scrapyard in the sky, the survivors will be worth something, but you can bet the equivalent Mundanos will be 4 times as much! TBF, though it had it's faults, I think the MkI Mondeo was a marginally better car than the Vectra B. But far worse than the contemporary Cavalier in every respect.
Steve
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Nah, they won't in my opinion.
They were around as Grandstand went from our tellies so there's no repeat of their touring car history to get many excited. Plus Vauxhall have nothing screaming motorsport so no-one other than new drivers able to get one as a first car and stay with the brand due to being locked into regular payments has no draw to it. As an example to get my point across, how many people buy a Megane or a Primera on its BTCC history?
I hate Vauxhall. Always have and I've driven most of what they have to offer over the last 15 years. I do like that shape of that type of Vectra though...
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The sport models defiantly will, Gsi and Sri, much like the cavalier versions have in recent years.
As for the povo spec ones, probably won't ever create a fortune unless it's a very low mileage one.
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Nov 23, 2016 10:05:07 GMT
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I think there is a world in which the GSi etc. will become 'retro' in the future. Not yet maybe, but at some point, I'm sure it'll happen as time moves forwards.
It is interesting the comment about Grandstand and the BTCC affecting people's views of their cars. I'd not thought of that before.
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Nov 23, 2016 18:38:29 GMT
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Simple rule. Hows it look rusty and with patina?
Good = future classic
Pants = future donor car
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