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I've had caravans and even a wonderful little Honda Acty Romahome in the past but don't have anything at present. Health issues means I've become a bit of a hermit and rarely venture further than the local supermarket so haven't have a holiday or even overnight break for many years. This has got to change because there are many wonderful places in UK to visit - like shows and museums as well as simply enjoying scenery. I want to visit the Haynes and Beaulieu museums next year and also do the North Coast 500 so am considering a another camper. This wouldn't be a main vehicle but something that only got used occasionally. A Bedford CA, MKI Transit, VW split / bay and such classic campers are to my taste but also way outside budget so I'm considering a retro camper Shortlist at present is Bedford CF, MKII Transit, Sherpa, Talbot Express (and Citroen / Fiat versions) and Commer / Dodge PB / Spacevan. VW T25 a possibility but would probably have to buy a van to convert myself due to scene tax. Requirement would be van derived rather than coachbuilt & preferably pop top than high roof. Not bothered if diesel or petrol power. No Japanese so rules out Bedford Midi and HiAce. Don't like Renault either. Don't want modern such as MKIII onwards Transit (had SWB Hi-top), Peugeot Express (had HDi), T4 and such. I've owned a LDV 200 and MKII Transit so know how they drive - still in 50's / 60's I know people will have their own opinions on positives & negatives of various models but accept that can apply to any vehicle that will be 30+ years old. So what are peoples other suggestions that might fit my bill ? Cheers. Paul H
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Oct 28, 2016 12:12:17 GMT
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CF Not a bad word to say about mine. Only issue is they are either rotten, or expensive. Rusty ones are easy to find, sorted (properly) ones are few and far between and seem to have price tags of 8-10k, no idea if they sell at that though. Great to drive, handles well, quick enough with overdrive, enough power for hills, best looking brit van ever made. But, apart from the rot, not so easy to get bits for but they are out there.
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Oct 28, 2016 12:23:37 GMT
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What about a VW LT? No way near as much scene tax as they are pretty unloved. Mate of mine nearly bought one until he found a LHD T25 Westfalia Club Joker over in Belgium for a great price.
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Oct 28, 2016 12:27:48 GMT
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Oct 28, 2016 12:41:50 GMT
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I know you said you don't like Renaults but Estafettes are classic and relatively cheap. Heres mine that I'm turning into a day camper. Look at his miserable little face
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Oct 28, 2016 12:58:05 GMT
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Never thought about LT's I bought all the parts (sink, hob, rock & roll bed, electrics, seat swivels, windows etc to convert my Peugeot Expert hence even a bare van would be considered. The Estafette is a "proper" traditional Renault from era when they made decent vehicles that would also be something I'd consider however Trafic and Master are classic examples of when the cost accountants decided to make them as cheap as possible and last only a few years before they fall apart. Mate had a year old Holdworth camper based on a Trafic and it need chassis welding at around 5 years old even though it wasn't used as an everyday vehicle.
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richr
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Oct 28, 2016 18:02:00 GMT
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What about a VW LT? No way near as much scene tax as they are pretty unloved. Mate of mine nearly bought one until he found a LHD T25 Westfalia Club Joker over in Belgium for a great price. That would get my vote. A proper VW with proper reliability and quality.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:14:38 GMT
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Lwb CFs seem unloved and good value now compared to a mk2 transit - unless you import a lhd one yourself.
VW LT seems a good idea though, I think you can get a Luton version built on a chassis cab for extra head room.
LDV convoy the ones with the Peugeot or landrover engine option, they're big and basic if you can find one.
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Last Edit: Oct 28, 2016 18:16:37 GMT by dodgerover
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Rob M
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Oct 28, 2016 18:19:54 GMT
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Never thought about LT's I bought all the parts (sink, hob, rock & roll bed, electrics, seat swivels, windows etc to convert my Peugeot Expert hence even a bare van would be considered. The Estafette is a "proper" traditional Renault from era when they made decent vehicles that would also be something I'd consider however Trafic and Master are classic examples of when the cost accountants decided to make them as cheap as possible and last only a few years before they fall apart. Mate had a year old Holdworth camper based on a Trafic and it need chassis welding at around 5 years old even though it wasn't used as an everyday vehicle. Back in 2004 I moved down to Mallorca, all our wordly goods were piled into a 1991 LWB Hightop Trafic T1100 Diesel. It was BULLETPROOF, 150,000, reliable and we fell in love with it. It had spent its life previously hauling plumbing gear then was a farmshop hack transporting pallets of potatoes. It got written off by a local piling his Opel Kadett into the front NS of it, a sad end but it did save my wife from being very seriously injured. Don't discount them, awesome vans* IMHO *Not the modern badge engineered sh*te that they produce now.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:27:50 GMT
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I'm puzzled as to why you won't look at Japanese, particularly as you state you owned a 'wonderful' Honda Acty Romahome. Any ideas on budget? I don't want to bang on about campers in the £10K ball park if you're thinking of a fixer-upper with a price tag more like this one. p.s. Have you considered a retro caravan?
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Last Edit: Oct 28, 2016 18:29:22 GMT by MkX
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Oct 28, 2016 18:42:28 GMT
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Lwb CFs seem unloved and good value now compared to a mk2 transit - unless you import a lhd one yourself. VW LT seems a good idea though, I think you can get a Luton version built on a chassis cab for extra head room. LDV convoy the ones with the Peugeot or landrover engine option, they're big and basic if you can find one. undervalued LWB cf's? Ive not even seen one for sale, let alone thought it was undervalued. Or are you talking about coach built?
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Oct 28, 2016 19:01:53 GMT
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Last Edit: Oct 28, 2016 19:04:03 GMT by dodgerover
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Oct 28, 2016 22:01:07 GMT
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2001 vauxhall corsa 1972 VW Beetle 1986 Ford Capri Laser1999 BMW E36 323i Touring 1991 Volvo 940 estate 2002 Mazda 323f 2.0 sport 2016 Mercedes Sprinter 1999 nissan almera 1.4 1995 lexus gs300 1995 lexus ls400 1975 bmw 1602 fiat punto 2003 ford fiesta something else...
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Considering a retro camper !fr€$h&m1nt¥
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I was curious about the Japanese exclusion too as there are some great vans out there without the scene tax of VW - even original VW boys are cashing in and moving onto more individual stuff.
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Quite simply I don't want Japanese. It's a personal choice but prefer British or maybe European. Don't want another caravan either - anyway my main daily car is a Smart so wouldn't pull one anyway
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Land Rovers with Marshall Ambulance bodies actually work pretty well as one or 2 person campers, I've seen more than a few kitted out as such, and with the right paint job, wheels etc can look pretty mega. Added bonus of quite a few good options for a modern and fairly economical repower, or go completely modern underneath and drop the entire body onto a 110 rather than a LWB leaf sprung truck. For ideas on interior, then have a look at this one: Clicky
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mikec
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Oct 29, 2016 12:03:35 GMT
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If you're not averse to left-hand drive, how about something like this, on ebay at the moment for around £3k?
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Oct 29, 2016 14:18:56 GMT
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Lwb CFs seem unloved and good value now compared to a mk2 transit - unless you import a lhd one yourself. VW LT seems a good idea though, I think you can get a Luton version built on a chassis cab for extra head room. LDV convoy the ones with the Peugeot or landrover engine option, they're big and basic if you can find one. I'd prefer the LT given the coice, convoys rust for fun, the LR 2.5NA is, well, woefully slow is an understaement, glacialy slow is more like it, the peugeot ones are ok but like to drink like an elctrified drinking machine in a drinking contest, my 2.5 pug LDV400 wouldn't even make it from London to RTTS on a tankfull, i used to refill at the end of the M5! my leyland daf 350 LR 2.5 would max out at 50 MPH (mind you it was an auto so in reality only had the 4th gear top gear, a 5 sp would maybe get to 55) the later convoy with the 2.5 Di would be my pick, preferably a crew cab version so it already has windows fitted to the middle section and a nicer cab than the earlyer ones, ex PO ones have really nice suspension drivers seats as well but too new for you ?? LT's are shaped better for conversion, nice and square and usually taller inside IME
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Oct 29, 2016 15:51:13 GMT
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Tip - check what it's registered as My ex got a small iveco coach,rang her insurance and got told all seats had to be kept in place. When she explained logbook said ambulance she got told she could take out all seats if she wanted. Madness! Hers was ex-concil pts (patient transport) so had about 20 seats in when she got it. Just a thought..
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Oct 29, 2016 15:59:47 GMT
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Land Rovers with Marshall Ambulance bodies actually work pretty well as one or 2 person campers, I've seen more than a few kitted out as such, and with the right paint job, wheels etc can look pretty mega. Added bonus of quite a few good options for a modern and fairly economical repower, or go completely modern underneath and drop the entire body onto a 110 rather than a LWB leaf sprung truck. For ideas on interior, then have a look at this one: Clicky Or a forward control LR Ambulance?
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