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Oct 17, 2016 16:05:27 GMT
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Hello to you all...
I hate to admit it but I am lazy! There I said it!!!
I have just purchased some reasonably tidy 1.6 GTI Speedline alloy wheels for my 205 and they really do need a good clean up.
Now, I don't mind going to work on each one with the cleaning spray, some hot soapy water and a scrubbing brush but if I can make things easier for myself I will certainly try.
What I wondered was if it was possible to get alloys cleaned up (just dirt and grim wise of course!) if I sprayed them with said cleaner then put them in the dishwasher, on a long cycle with a couple of cleaning tablets...?!
I just wanted to ask as I am keen to give it a go as, like I said, I am prone to outbursts of laziness!!!
Thanks to you all in advance...
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Oct 17, 2016 16:15:58 GMT
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The dishwasher will dull the aluminium. It can also anneal the metal so they are softer.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:22:12 GMT
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Its the chemicals in the tablets that dull the Ali. Its just a hot water rinse witjout the tablets.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:27:38 GMT
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The dishwasher will dull the aluminium. It can also anneal the metal so they are softer. How hot is your dishwasher!? Aluminium anneals at over 300 degC, no way is a dishwasher going anneal cast aluminium. A lot of dishwasher chemicals are quite aggressive though, I agree it would likely dull the finish.
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Oct 17, 2016 16:32:24 GMT
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If it is going to cause damage then I will avoid the old dishwasher...!
I was just thinking of a lazy solution to something that is probably best dealt with using good old elbow grease...
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Oct 17, 2016 20:03:02 GMT
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Your dishwasher must be bigger than mine......
Nick
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If you didn't use the tablets, I can't see what harm it would do. My only advice would be to do it when your missus is out for the day and there's no chance of an early return.
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Oct 18, 2016 15:16:35 GMT
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Your dishwasher must be bigger than mine...... Nick Just one wheel at a time sir, just one...!!! Further to the comments about the tablets being quite damaging I can see what you folks may mean but it does confuse me slightly as I thought they were designed for delicate plates and what-not...?! I'm not going to take my chances though and will give it a try but just with a glug of car shampoo in there or something... This could go one way or quite the other!!!
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Last Edit: Oct 18, 2016 15:18:37 GMT by grifterkid
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Oct 18, 2016 15:46:56 GMT
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Car shampoo? You may end up with a foam party.
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Oct 18, 2016 15:56:29 GMT
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Car shampoo? You may end up with a foam party. Just a thimble-full of course...!!! I won't be able to explain away the foam!
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Oct 18, 2016 16:10:35 GMT
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A good friend of mine uses his dish washer for cylinder heads etc.
Always been fine.
Don't however use ' fairy power kitchen cleaner'. Turnt his whole kitchen Into a foam party
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Don't underestimate just how much foam your thimble full may produce in the dishwasher Remember what happened to Mr Creosote when he had just that little wafer. I don't see a dishwasher tab wrecking an alloy wheel at the lowish temps in there, they are nowhere near as nasty as alloy wheel cleaner or the dodgy stuff they use at some of the cheaper hand car washes.
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2016 6:21:28 GMT by miker33
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taurus
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I tried this a while back - I was sad to open the dishwasher and find the wheel just as dirty as when it went in. I've used it for engine parts and it gets rids of oil and grease pretty well, but the staining on alloys seems to be beyond Mr Hotpoint.
I have also tried the - just a thimble full - it did not end well.
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Oct 20, 2016 11:48:20 GMT
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Going on what has been said I think I may just revert to the elbow-grease technique!
Thanks for all your advise...
I don't want to fill the kitchen with suds now do I?!
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Oct 20, 2016 12:14:53 GMT
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I don't want to fill the kitchen with suds now do I?! But we want you to
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Oct 20, 2016 12:15:06 GMT
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I take it my method of Mr muscle foaming oven cleaner and a jetwash is out the window? cleans the filthyest alloys (mainly the lazyass ex wifes) just don't do it on any alloys with missing laquer and don't leave it on too long, i spray the wheels one at a time walking round the car, then go round agitating with an stiff bristle wheel brush, then walk around jetwashing them, it's a pound a tim from the local Range lasts 4 or 5 jetwashes as well.
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2016 12:21:14 GMT by bortaf
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Oct 20, 2016 12:33:41 GMT
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Probably not the answer you are looking for but are you thinking of refurbishing these?
If so I'd be tempted to give them to a powdercoater. I know City Powdercoaters in Birmingham blast and coat a wheel for £20 a corner.
Otherwise, I'd get some Billberry wheel cleaner, spray it on, scrub it a little and then remove it. It's a very effective wheel cleaner.
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2016 12:34:32 GMT by ChasR
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Oct 20, 2016 17:00:36 GMT
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I don't really want to go down the refurb' route as I got a slightly scuffed set as I knew that they'd get knocked about a bit...
What I did want to do was just give them a ruddy through clean front and back prior to slapping some tyres on and putting them to use.
I think the oven cleaner/stiff brush technique is favourite. A jet washer may take off the laquer where it is already scuffed I assume?!
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Oct 20, 2016 17:05:38 GMT
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The jet wash depends on how flakey the paint is.
What I do with kerbed wheels is a bit of a bodge. I'll send them back and then use primer and touch up to seal the repair. It's not great but it has stopped the paint from flaking badly.
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Oct 20, 2016 18:52:33 GMT
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When I had a tyre sorted not that long ago, the place had a machine that cleaned my heavily brake dust coated compos back to almost new... Might be worth seeing if you can find a tyre fitter with one. Didn't cost me any extra...
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