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Aug 28, 2016 18:24:28 GMT
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Sorry for lame, non car related question but...
I am mid house renovation (6 month marker now, still cant move in yet!) the entire house has been stripped back to brick & ceilings removed. I am trying to keep noise transfer as low a possible, howver the walls are having to be dot dabbed.
All the upstairs walls have been soundcoated (5mm skim on bare brick) now it's time to board it out, I was going to get soundbloc boards but they only come in 8x4, I really need to stick to 6x3s (I am working on this on my own and my backs iffy)
I have been wondering if the 12.5mm fireboards would work the same as the soundbloc boards as they are really dense, any ideas if this would work? By the time upstairs is boarded I will be at a board count of 120 lol.
Will stick a couple of progress pics up if anyone wants to see what a bad decission looks like lol.
Ta Joe
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Last Edit: Aug 28, 2016 18:25:46 GMT by joem83
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Aug 28, 2016 20:20:32 GMT
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Get a labourer in to help you out, get twice as much done in less time, even 6x3 soundboard is too heavy to do ceilings with on your own. No point struggling and making your back worse. Is it a terrace? Can you get a pallet of them hiabd into the top floor or loft? Saves a lot of carrying.
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Last Edit: Aug 28, 2016 20:45:02 GMT by dodgerover
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Aug 28, 2016 20:24:59 GMT
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Got the Mrs helping with ceilings lol I do have 2 labourers coming in, but will be on my own when they get deliverd. Will be 90 boards coming at once. I wish it was, it's a large 3 bed semi.
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Aug 28, 2016 20:48:35 GMT
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Just thinking about it we double boarded the ceilings with sound board on some flats we converted. Have you got a collated feed screw gun? If you don't just buy one first..
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Last Edit: Aug 28, 2016 20:49:35 GMT by dodgerover
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Aug 28, 2016 21:58:01 GMT
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Sadly not, just an impact driver (best tool I have ever bought tbh). Works ok, only got kitchen diner/hall ceilings left to do now. Got soundslab for stud walls & rockwool sound roll & fireboard for downsairs ceilings, upstairs is standard board with 100mm insualtion cross laid (cross beamed as well) with 18mm t&g chipboard flooring covering entire loft.
Not after perfect sound proofing, our last house was 100% dot dabbed and the noise transfer was terrible (didnt help that the builders did a pap job of boarding, hence me doing in myself this time). Time & money doesnt allow for wet plastering, so I'm hoping the sound coat & dense boards will help.
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iain42
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Aug 28, 2016 22:04:18 GMT
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I'm sure I've used 6x3 soundboard, although if my memory is correct it was 15mm thick - give Gyproc a ring. they will probably tell you to get the best from the boards you'll need to build a stud wall, not touching the brick, and board that, if you can stand to lose the room size ! for board delivery, I've previously got them delivered on a truck with a moffatt, lift them to first floor window height and slide them through for installing on ceilings, hire a board lifter, (something like hire.selcobw.com/products/lifting-materials-handling/general-lifting-handling/manual-panel-plasterboard-lift)and be amazed at how fast you can complete a ceiling on your own
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You are right, jewsons have 6x3 boards! Wish I had thought of hiring one of those, made some t frames from old 2x3s and bits of floor boards, they work ok but gave me a bruised eyebrow when I moved the board and it fell on my face lol.
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Last Edit: Aug 29, 2016 21:10:15 GMT by joem83
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Yee gods don't buy them from Jewsons unless you know someone their it will be 3 times more expensive than anywhere else...
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iain42
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Aug 29, 2016 20:08:55 GMT
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Wish I had thought of hiring one of those, made some t frames from old 2x3s and bits of floor boards, I work ok but gave be a bruised eyebrow lol. used to do the same, until the day when a board fell, just as my Mrs was walking underneath, she snapped an 8x4 on her head - then punched me
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Aug 29, 2016 21:11:25 GMT
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used to do the same, until the day when a board fell, just as my Mrs was walking underneath, she snapped an 8x4 on her head - then punched me Is that when you told her off for breaking the board?
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Aug 29, 2016 21:15:01 GMT
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Yee gods don't buy them from Jewsons unless you know someone their it will be 3 times more expensive than anywhere else... don't worry I wont be, it's a shame Travis Perkins don't sell them as they let me have a cash trade account. Wickes have worked out the cheapest for standard boards so far!
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Aug 29, 2016 21:24:02 GMT
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This is how far back we have had to take the house & why we are still living with my mother-in-law. We were supposed to move in in June (4 month project) lol View from the front door This is also the reason my mk2 project is on hold lol
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Last Edit: Aug 29, 2016 21:40:14 GMT by joem83
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Aug 30, 2016 20:17:58 GMT
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Phoned British Gypsum this morning and as the boards are being dot dabbed the is very little benefit using soundboard over standard ones so have gone for them.
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MK2VR6
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Aug 30, 2016 20:34:23 GMT
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Good lord, I thought we'd done a lot to our '71 house, which we've be steadily renovating over the last five years. Why did you strip it so drastically? Should be like a new build when you're finished!
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Aug 30, 2016 20:42:15 GMT
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If you Google the British gypsum white book it gives sound ratings for the different boards and systems. Might be useful to compare your options.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:47:20 GMT
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Good lord, I thought we'd done a lot to our '71 house, which we've be steadily renovating over the last five years. Why did you strip it so drastically? Should be like a new build when you're finished! Thats a question I keep asking myself lol, the ceilngs came out as there were ceiling tiles everywhere which would have required skimming anyway. All the plaster was blown, the wiring was melted, the plumbing was a mess (every radiator is being moved & lead pipes), rotten floor joists in the kitchen, woodworm, wobbly structual wall, all windows needed replacing and most of the 1930's features were removed in the 60's. The list goes on lol. Basically, the house was at a point where sticking a plaster on it wasnt going to last very long. However... it's a big house, in a nice area with good catchment & bigger garage with my own drive.
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Last Edit: Aug 30, 2016 20:49:17 GMT by joem83
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MK2VR6
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Aug 30, 2016 21:01:52 GMT
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Good lord, I thought we'd done a lot to our '71 house, which we've be steadily renovating over the last five years. Why did you strip it so drastically? Should be like a new build when you're finished! Thats a question I keep asking myself lol, the ceilngs came out as there were ceiling tiles everywhere which would have required skimming anyway. All the plaster was blown, the wiring was melted, the plumbing was a mess (every radiator is being moved & lead pipes), rotten floor joists in the kitchen, woodworm, wobbly structual wall, all windows needed replacing and most of the 1930's features were removed in the 60's. The list goes on lol. Basically, the house was at a point where sticking a plaster on it wasnt going to last very long. However... it's a big house, in a nice area with good catchment & bigger garage with my own drive. Sounds like a keeper in that case. It'll be worth it in the end - that's what I keep telling myself with ours!
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Aug 31, 2016 21:39:14 GMT
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Haha yeah long term it will be worth it, never feels like it though lol (2nd time we have done this now)
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