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Jul 22, 2016 19:44:51 GMT
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Getting a new old car tomorrow probably a bit too new for here but thought id ask some mechanics . 2002 Hinda civic 1.7 cdti - my first deseaslal . Whats peoples advice ? It runs well so whats best to keep it going well ? I will more than likely give it a thrashing most of the the time and do 60 miles each day so should that keep the egr and dpf [ not sure if fitted ] in good condition and not clogged up ? Is that the main cause of modern diesel problems ??
I only fill up with shell so does anyone use a additive they think works?
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Jul 22, 2016 19:51:58 GMT
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Can of Forte in the diesel once in a while.
Main cause of problems with modern diesels is trying to make them into petrols - too many sensors, electrically controlled components, higher and higher injection pressures etc etc
Give me a nice simple Perkins come the Zombie apocolypse and I'll be fine.
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Last Edit: Jul 22, 2016 19:55:36 GMT by dodgerover
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Jul 22, 2016 19:56:31 GMT
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Unlikely a DPF , probably an EGR. Depends on whether you need to code out a deleted EGR as then stuff gets pricey. General Italian tune ups keep stuff working and cleanish.... Try Rhino diesel additive works well on my 03 PD Golf
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Jul 22, 2016 20:01:36 GMT
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Cheers guys I'm new to the devils diarrhea . Only experience is my mates mondeo or similar age at work - he spent months shtiing it about its lack of power , smoke etc . He worked himself up into thinking it was the injectors which are expensive then need coding to the car - basically a scrap car .
He took out and cleaned the EGR , then when he was installing it i said ' is that large pipe coming off that supposed to have a 5 inch split in it ??
£18 chavvy blue samco-a-like hose and its good as new !
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stealthstylz
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Give it a good thrash at least once a week and it'll go on forever. Diesels get killed by carbon build up. Oh and don't lug it about at low revs in high gears it'll kill the DMF if it still has one fitted.
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It will be thrashed- i don't hang about but I'm safe . I have just nursed a aged Renault megane for 15000 miles that was a bit crabby when i got it . After a oil change and a few days of 60 miles round trips it was like a sewing machine ,
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I'm not a speedy driver in my D5 V70 but do nail it up and down slip roads once warmed up. I clean out the EGR about once a year and I've never had any diesel nightmares so far.
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If you don't clean the egr then there's a chance the swirl flaps will get clogged and that's another pain in the ass job, personally I'd blank the egr with a plate making sure it's got a 10mm hole drilled in it to fool the ecu into thinking it's not blocked. I have a few Astra vans 2008 1.9cdti and on one I went balls out on tuning to see what would happen..
Fuel wise standard I got 400 miles per tank and power was at 150bhp standard
First mod was a stage 1 map economy, gave me instant 425 miles per tank and a nice torque increase. Three weeks later the gear box shat itself.
After a whole new box and dmf I thought I'd go for it, had a new stage 2 remap and then the power really came in, fuel consumption was exactly the same as well ?!?
The dmf lasted 50,000miles and then I converted to a solid flywheel. Bad idea lol
Managed a chattery 4000 miles and stripped the teeth off of 2nd gear, had another gearbox made with uprated bearings and a uprated dmf to suit the torque incease as well.
Since then I've gutted both primary and secondary cats (no dpf on these vans) then completely blanked the egr removed the swirl flaps and alley welded the necessary holes in the inlet.. The difference is incredible and the fuel consumption is so good I managed to get 479 miles out of a tank recently as well. A few weeks ago I have had a full 2 1/4 stainless system made with no boxes and I don't need to do any more at all.
The power is unreal the sound it makes is insane and it goes from 0-illegal speeds faster than most things....
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Ha ha that sounds hilarious fun ! Unfortunately i think mine will be staying standard - i just driven it home and its ok . It does want to go though , its got 99 or 100 bhp in quite a small car so it seems to always be chomping at the bit to be floored !
Its got a loose drivers seat he didnt mention [ ebay car p/x at a dealer ] and the electric power steering does not inspire spirited driving but for a mile muncher its great .
Jet wash later , then thrash then i might get a additive for it .
Thanks for the replies , it seems driving it hard high revs is the best so should be ok.
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Jul 23, 2016 21:53:55 GMT
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I use 2 stroke in my VW Boring. I read up on it,some said it was bull and others raved about it. It did reduce the noise by a noticeable amount so for that alone it's worth it. A VW Pd is not quiet. I also use it in my Frontera as it runs veg.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:04:35 GMT
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There's no point mixing 2t oil with veg, the point of it is to add back the lubricating properties that have been removed from modern derv. Veg oil is oily enough.
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Jul 23, 2016 22:14:49 GMT
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not really, thats why lucas pumps seize up when running veg.
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I use 2 stroke in my VW Boring. I read up on it,some said it was bull and others raved about it. It did reduce the noise by a noticeable amount so for that alone it's worth it. A VW Pd is not quiet. I also use it in my Frontera as it runs veg. Run it on V-Power Diesel. My B6 PD 105 was cheaper and perkier on V-Power by quite a margin as well as barely smoking with it . To the OP. As long as you keep it serviced well it should be OK. I've seen a few modern dervs do 200k but the owners have taken great care of them and done a few things other people would not do due to 'cost'.
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I've just got rid of a Saab 93 with the Vauxhall 1.9 diesel boat anchor. The basic engine may be fine but the added items are awful. Low mileage, one owner car. Fortunately came with warranty as in 8k miles had 2x flap bars, 1 flap motor, new inlet manifold, pressure sensor on DPF, so many manual regens on the DPF I lost count, full set of new injectors, and probably more stuff I've forgotten and still used to clog the DPF at regular intervals. Did Manchester to Milton Keynes on limp home mode, barely made it up the hills.
Stranded me at a hotel on the wife's Birthday when the crappy GM wiring loom broke somewhere. Took the garage days to search through the loom and find a break. Common problem with them apparently.
Had I kept it beyond the warranty the next plan was to gut the DPF and get the ECU mapped to remove the warning, bin the EGR and swirl valves but ultimately was so bad the dealership offered to buy it back as it was an embarrassment to them. Go on ebay and search for any modern ish Diesel engine and you'll see countless people selling the parts to remove all the useless bits and will ultimately end up with a decent engine if you can put the work in.
Not stirring up hatred but growing up near Luton and knowing the people that built them I've always thought Vauxhall were awful cars. Even the employees would admit they only had them as the staff deals were so horrendously cheap you couldn't say no. This was the first purchase I made with Vauxhall components in and there was barely a week I didn't have cause to regret it.
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Jul 25, 2016 10:18:48 GMT
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not really, thats why lucas pumps seize up when running veg. I thought it was the tolerances that were too tight and the construction not as robust as a bosch that caused them to fail when asked to pump cold thick veg? They are generally considered fine if you run them on a heated twin tank system so they never have to inject thick veg?
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Jul 25, 2016 11:01:39 GMT
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I´m running the FIAT / GM 1.9 16V CDTI (150bhp stock) in my 2007 Astra caravan "mile muncher", and can second the "remove useless curse word, remap and it will be great" statement. Mine runs an EGR delete (hard- & software) and a 200bhp 435Nm remap, I avoid pulling big torque from low revs and add 200ml 2stroke any 3rd filling. Due to the regular emmissions tests in Germany the DPF is still in and working. The intake is clean, the car is reasonably fast and the fuel economy varies from 5.5 l/100km for limited motorways to 7.5 l/100km for night rides on autobahn with the cruise set at 200km/h. Gives decent black smoke at full throttle over 3800rpm. Got the car at ~100kkm with fresh intake and DMF (replaced by dealership), immediate remap, now it is at 180kkm and except the usual non-diesel-related GM troubles it´s running strong.
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