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Dec 30, 2016 16:43:59 GMT
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I would not dismiss the Lexus engine out of hand. The Engine is wide, but the exhaust adds little to the required width whereas headers on a 302 add width beyond the engine block. Note that the Miata guys have managed with the Lexus engine. Have a look here for a Lexus to Rover dimension comparison www.super7thheaven.co.uk/blog/rover-v8-vs-lexus-v8-dimensions/
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Dec 30, 2016 16:47:41 GMT
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I would not dismiss the Lexus engine out of hand. The Engine is wide, but the exhaust ports point straight down where as headers on a 302 add width beyond the engine block. Note that the Miata guys have managed with the Lexus engine. Have a look here for a Lexus to Rover dimension comparison www.super7thheaven.co.uk/blog/rover-v8-vs-lexus-v8-dimensions/
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Dec 30, 2016 17:07:37 GMT
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i watched an episode of bitchin rides on tv the other day and they did a 52 pontiac convertible that was a bit of a rotbox. when they fixed it they were discussing which gm panels they could use on the rear quarters and i think chevy ones were used due to availibility. not a bad watch if you can find the show online and the car looked awsome when done too.
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mattiwagon
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Dec 30, 2016 21:36:59 GMT
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Fair play on the sill chop ๐ณ, that bracing has paid of lovely, hope the other side and the new sections go in sweet.
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Last Edit: Dec 30, 2016 21:37:28 GMT by mattiwagon: Im a tard
If they cant be nice f**k em!
84 low t25 panel 1.9td beige and rust combo 97 Goped Bigfoot G260RC with clutch conversion 97 Impreza turbo 2000 builders wagon 76k sold 04 Fabia vRs 50mpg pocket rocket 04 battered T5 pickup in blue! Chainsaws lotsa Chainsaws
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Sometimes you've got to be brave! I restored a Beetle years ago that had had heater channels put in by a previous owner without the body being braced - to get the door gap right I ended up cutting the channel away from the door post, front quarter panel and front bulkhead. Scary when you've got everything swinging around in open space!
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim 1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started. 1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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drdick
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Dec 31, 2016 10:36:40 GMT
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I wouldn't know where to start with all that metalwork! TBH I don't either, I just decided to start on this bit! Just that one thing is a huge step surely. The old if it looks right then it probablt is ,springs to mind. That will probably be the motto for this car! The beauty of a body on chassis type car is that all the body really does is keep you dry and out of the wind so if it's not 100% straight or symmetric or whatever then it's not a huge deal. i watched an episode of bitchin rides on tv the other day and they did a 52 pontiac convertible that was a bit of a rotbox. when they fixed it they were discussing which gm panels they could use on the rear quarters and i think chevy ones were used due to availibility. not a bad watch if you can find the show online and the car looked awsome when done too. That was the show I alluded to in an earlier post. Got it saved on my Sky box, it's what gave me the idea of just using some folded sections for sills. Fair play on the sill chop ๐ณ, that bracing has paid of lovely, hope the other side and the new sections go in sweet. I hope so too!
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Last Edit: Dec 31, 2016 10:37:04 GMT by drdick
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drdick
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Things are slowly happening. Got some sills made, happy with those but not happy enough to take a picture of them...... I stripped everything off the bulkhead and out from under the dash so that I could see what was going on. Hairymel popped up to take unfortunate photos of me doing just that He also found a grommet shaped like a smiley face.... With everything out the way I really need to do something constructive rather than destructive. Despite my apparant success with the sills so far I haven't yet grown a large enough pair to whip the entire old sill off yet. The new sill needs to connect to the bottom of the a pillar and the one I am working on is probably the worst bit of the car. Naturally, it's been bodged previously and has a lot of rust in it. Luckily the other side is a lot better so can act as a useful reference. So plan number 467 is to repair the a pillar enough such that the doors can be mounted and the new sill connected to the bottom. I decided to use the angry knot wheel of doom to uncover all the nasty and then work from solid metal towards the a pillar Damn you knot wheel of doom and your predictable uncovering of more holes than one previously thought!! I'll be making this bit up in sections because it's just not practical any other way. So after all this time of ownership here is the first piece of new metal going in... I'm not sure why I welded it in such a random, haphazard way but never mind, it's solid. Chop out some more grot... That bracket behind, despite it's appearance, is actually solid so will be cleaned up and left in there. Sadly that's as far as I got although Hairymel did find a fesh air vent shaped like a smiley face.......
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Last Edit: Feb 12, 2017 10:02:54 GMT by drdick
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Feb 12, 2017 13:32:00 GMT
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Great to see this coming along.
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Feb 12, 2017 13:46:39 GMT
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Smiles all around this resto !
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1994 Mercedes e220 petrol estate, daily driver. 1998 Peugeot 406 Coupe 3.0 v6, shopping car.
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vulgalour
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Feb 12, 2017 16:00:07 GMT
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Hooray! Metal type progress.
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Feb 12, 2017 17:42:21 GMT
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Cool project I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on.
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun T4 transporter. daily
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drdick
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Not really much going on to be honest, I always seem to be busy with something else. I did acquire this: Its an FMX same as I have in my Mustang. Freshly rebuily and with a new torque convertor it was at a price that was too good to ignore. I guess this means my plan of using the same drivetrain as I have in the Mustang is definitely happening now so I'm on the lookout for a 351 Windsor engine (if anyone knows of one being sold). These are my sill sections that I had folded up: I slapped a bit of paint over the inside of them prior to welding them up but ultimately they'll look like this: They're upside down in that picture, the little step bottom right is where the door closes. Rather than drill millions of holes and plug weld it together I borrowed this from work: After doing 4 spot welds and using two 13A fuses I came to the conclusion it will have to run off a larger circuit, one for later methinks!
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drdick
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Managed some time on this, I'm definitely in it for the long haul..... Let me start off by saying, as if followers of my bodgery didn't know, I have no idea what I am doing. That doesnt matter to me, I enjoy fiddling no matter what and if something comes out the other end that doesn't look like poop or burst into flames then that's a bonus.. I chucked a 16a plug onto the work spot welder, no fuse in there to go wrong and we'll all assume that the consumer board at the other end of the circuit will do something if all the amps get carried away with themselves. Using my sister as a sort of work trestle slash helper monkey I spot welded my sill sections togther: You will note I have gone a bit nuts with the number of welds. Internet research told me 1 weld every inch which seemed over the top but didn't stop me running with it. So there are 300 spot welds along the four flanges that I have done. This took over a day because you could only do about 30 and then you had to leave the machine for 45 minutes to cool down again! Anyway, done now, welder still in one piece and electrics in unit not on fire. I also received some cool stuff in the post: So now I have all the repair sections I need (well everything I can buy, still got to fabriate stuff myself) to rebuild my sills and the front of the rear quarters. I continue to contemplate my a pillar: I realise after staring at it for ages that I need to either start at the top and work down, or start at the bottom and work up. Since I've attached my little bracing frame at the bottom I figure I'll work top down. I gird my loins and start to unpick all the previous repairs (i.e. plates over the top of rust). Then I look at this bit: Urgh is all I can think. Maybe I'll just cut some bits off? More box section bracing goes in, I am low on box section so recyled material is utilised. Then I really lose my marbles and hack out the section that connects the the screen/roof to the box that houses the door hinge. That box looks rusty too: Christ knows if I'll ever be able to reconstruct a car out of this mess but I have at least kept all the bits to use as a pattern..........
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Looks like you need a tonybmw or jimspolicev8sd1 to help. That is a massive amount of metal bashing to take on.
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vulgalour
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Just buy yourself 34 tins of Isopon and three Daily Telegraphs. It'll be fine.
(don't do this really)
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drdick
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Just buy yourself 34 tins of Isopon and three Daily Telegraphs. It'll be fine. I suspect that this is the approach that previous owners might have taken given the amount of pigeon poo welding and plating over rust I have removed.
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drdick
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Of course, I didn't just walk off with half the car cut away. I formulated a plan! 1. Recreate hinge box thing. 2. Reconnect bottom of windscreen to hinge box thing. 3. Hope everything lines up in the end. So here is the offending piece of rusty grot that I cut off Much complex CAD Followed by much cutting, folding, filing, swearing etc Blob it onto the car and then get it aligned with some little bits of scrap tacked into place and finally, because part of the box is attached to the front sheet metal, I recreated that and tacked it all in. This gives the hinge box much more support so I guess I'm hoping it is in the right place now!
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mattiwagon
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Apr 10, 2017 18:50:05 GMT
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Epic work chap, possible you O.D'd on the brave pills best of luck looks like you have a plan๐บ๐๐
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If they cant be nice f**k em!
84 low t25 panel 1.9td beige and rust combo 97 Goped Bigfoot G260RC with clutch conversion 97 Impreza turbo 2000 builders wagon 76k sold 04 Fabia vRs 50mpg pocket rocket 04 battered T5 pickup in blue! Chainsaws lotsa Chainsaws
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tristanh
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Apr 10, 2017 19:52:04 GMT
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Stuff like that terrifies me. When you have nothing to shape off of, except your memory of the shonky tinwork that was there before! Brave man.
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Whether you believe you can, or you cannot, you're probably right.
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drdick
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Apr 10, 2017 20:55:19 GMT
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Stuff like that terrifies me. When you have nothing to shape off of, except your memory of the shonky tinwork that was there before! Brave man. What can go wrong? It's only money after all
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