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Jun 15, 2016 10:04:53 GMT
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I have the opertunity of getting a mini. But it's been off the road since 1997 and there fore untaxed as stated on the DVLA website but not sorn. A couple of things bother me, 1 will I be liable for the tax? 2 it has the old style log book with the last change of keeper in 1999 and there is some confusion wether it's been scrapped as far as DVLA are concerned. The bloke that has it is known to me for a long time and isn't dodgy but also isn't the registered keeper. He bought it a long time ago as he was buying and selling minis and parts etc in the late 90s early 00 and this is one that was just laying around. Is it worth the paper chase? And can I find out if it's scrapped?
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Jun 15, 2016 10:10:44 GMT
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Hi, If it's on the database as untaxed then it's not been scrapped, If it's been notified to DVLA as scrapped they remove it from the database and the search comes back as reg not known.
Colin
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Jun 15, 2016 11:04:54 GMT
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Contrary to some peoples experience I found DVLA helpful with something similar. I think they have a contact number/mail on their site, worth asking them.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Jun 15, 2016 23:15:10 GMT
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My Dolomite Sprint had been off the road since 95 and had no V5 I sent off my £25 expecting a long drawn out fight and had a V5 in my hand 5 days later. They're not ALWAYS useless and obstructive at DVLA!
Steve
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Jun 16, 2016 11:32:44 GMT
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As for the tax it will be the previous owner liable not you. But I'd imagine they'd already had countless warnings/fines from dvla years ago unless they moved house.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:24:20 GMT
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I bought my Escort in 1997 and didn't tax it until 2007. I did not pay any backdated tax. I believe if the car was untaxed when SORN was introduced it did not need to be sorned.
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Last Edit: Jun 16, 2016 12:24:59 GMT by jonsey
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mad
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Jun 16, 2016 15:05:31 GMT
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i brought an old car last year that hadn't been sorned for at least 25 years. I sent off the old logbook and got a load of paperwork from DVLA to prove the ID of the vehicle as they assumed it had been changed into a kit car. After taking a load of photos including the VIN number and a few months of twiddling my fingers i got the new V5 come through in my name and i then sorned the vehicle so no issues with tax. I should add that the car was pretty much a bare shell as it needed a lot of welding and restoration work. So yes it is worth the paper chase as it really isn't that bad, as long as there is a chassis stamp on the shell that matches the log book you should have a problem. If it has the original engine even better but not important and same colour.
I should also add that while researching i also found a few people that had got into problems because when entering the vin and other codes they didn't put a space in the right place or something silly like that and it delayed the process. Worse case they will send someone out to inspect the car.
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Last Edit: Jun 16, 2016 15:06:13 GMT by mad
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artstu
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Jun 16, 2016 15:16:37 GMT
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then sorned the vehicle so no issues with tax. I acquired a car a few years ago that had been off the road since before SORN was introduced, I applied and received a new log book for the car, but at no point was I asked to or able to SORN the car. So my question is How did you manage to SORN it? |
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artstu
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Jun 16, 2016 15:20:01 GMT
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I bought my Escort in 1997 and didn't tax it until 2007. I did not pay any backdated tax. I believe if the car was untaxed when SORN was introduced it did not need to be sorned. I have cars that pre-date the introduction of SORN, as it was not a requirement to do so there shouldn't be any issues if the car ever makes it back onto the road as you say. |
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Jun 16, 2016 17:00:16 GMT
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If there is a change of ownership then you do need to Sorn as the new keeper even if there was no need for it to be SORNd before.
Had this a few months ago and rang the dvla.
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artstu
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Jun 16, 2016 17:05:36 GMT
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If there is a change of ownership then you do need to Sorn as the new keeper even if there was no need for it to be SORNd before. Had this a few months ago and rang the dvla. If that's the case the system should be in place to require you to do so. Currently it would seem that the only way to declare SORN is ring up as you did then. ETA It looks like the system has changed from 7 years ago, the option to declare SORN online looks to be there for me now, when it wasn't before. |
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Last Edit: Jun 16, 2016 17:14:10 GMT by artstu
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Jun 16, 2016 17:12:13 GMT
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Nope I rang up to tell them I didn't need to sorn it as it had been untaxed since '83 and they said that the change of ownership meant that I did.
I declared it on line with the details off the V5 I think
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artstu
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Jun 16, 2016 17:20:34 GMT
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Nope I rang up to tell them I didn't need to sorn it as it had been untaxed since '83 and they said that the change of ownership meant that I did. I declared it on line with the details off the V5 I think Yes I have edited my post after checking, the system has changed. I won't be SORN'ing it now though. They should send out letters when the system is changed. |
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mad
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Jun 16, 2016 21:23:14 GMT
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So picked up the car with old log book. Faffed about getting a v5 in my name. About a week after the new v5 turned up in my name I got a normal car tax letter through saying it's untaxed I can ether buy tax or sorn it. Used the website and the cars now sorn.
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artstu
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Changed my mind and because I can now I've SORN'd two cars, one which hasn't been taxed or on the road since 1989 ! I'm hoping I don't get any hassle from them.
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drdick
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Jun 18, 2016 20:51:24 GMT
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Has SORN changed then? I sent one off a while ago and they sent it back to me. I rang them and they stated that if it hasn't been taxed since 98 there is no need for a SORN.
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We hadn't taxed my prefect it's been off the road since 1998
When the new system came in I taxed it just to see what happened because it's mot and tax exempt the system showed it as taxed no bother
Mine was written off in a front end smash by my dad insurance paid out and then he bought it back
If it's still on the system it's not scrapped
I did get a letter from them a couple months later saying I had to insure it or I would be fined
Gary
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Caravans are cool
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artstu
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Jun 25, 2016 14:55:16 GMT
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Has SORN changed then? I sent one off a while ago and they sent it back to me. I rang them and they stated that if it hasn't been taxed since 98 there is no need for a SORN. That sounds right to me. A short while ago it wasn't possible to use the online SORN system on a car that had been untaxed for so long, now it looks to allow you to SORN one online, however the two cars I tried to SORN are still showing as untaxed, so I guess the system still doesn't allow you to SORN them, not that it is a requirement anyway. |
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