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May 10, 2016 21:40:41 GMT
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Green Anglia 105E MMT610C, Hayes, Middlesex 09/05/16 Green Anglia 105E registration number MMT610C was stolen from the owner’s driveway between 1AM & 2AM on Monday 9th May 2016. A man approx 5ft8” in height knocked on the owner’s door at 3PM on Sunday 8th May enquiring who owned the vehicle, a neighbour told them that the owner was away on holiday, the man walked away & in the early hours the car disappeared. The man drives a blue Vauxhall 7 seater. The man has showed interest in the car twice before according to a neighbour. The car has been stood for 3 years so is looking a little sorry for itself, dusty & rusty. The car is fitted with a 1500 pre crossflow with +90 oversize pistons, big valve head & a single 45 DCOE carb on a Derrington manifold. The car has a custom fit exhaust with stainless rear section. The engine is mated to a 1200 gearbox with 2000E internals. The car has a 105Speed radiator & fan & is also fitted with Milton front end, Milton weld on rear end, Milton double anti roll bar & Milton strut brace.
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Ryannn
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May 11, 2016 17:12:41 GMT
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A man approx 5ft8” in height knocked on the owner’s door at 3PM on Sunday 8th May enquiring who owned the vehicle, a neighbour told them that the owner was away on holiday, the man walked away & in the early hours the car disappeared. The man drives a blue Vauxhall 7 seater. Ffs, idiots
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Rob M
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May 11, 2016 18:55:42 GMT
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A man approx 5ft8” in height knocked on the owner’s door at 3PM on Sunday 8th May enquiring who owned the vehicle, a neighbour told them that the owner was away on holiday, the man walked away & in the early hours the car disappeared. The man drives a blue Vauxhall 7 seater. Ffs, idiots TBF, lots of idiocy going on there from all corners. Looks like the car was pinched just in time. It looks like it was fast getting to the point where there would have been **** all left of it to steal..........
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May 11, 2016 19:03:18 GMT
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Dumbass thing to say , the owner can do what they want with it .
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May 11, 2016 19:58:36 GMT
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Dumbass thing to say , the owner can do what they want with it . Its ' ' and, yes, of course he can. He can also leave it completely unprotected, unlocked and easy enough for a child to enter and steal. As much as id be happy to take an axe to the hands of thieves, this page is brimming with lifted cars that have had virtually no theft deterent whatsoever. I'm sure that block paved drive could have had a metal post and lock put in, may not have stopped it but the noise of removal would have alerted people. Maybe. Yes cars should be safe from theft but they have never been and never will be. Owners need to take greater responsibility.
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May 11, 2016 20:08:03 GMT
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Yes , but basically saying it was nicked in time before it rusted away is idiotic .
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May 11, 2016 20:15:07 GMT
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The owner was actually about to start working on it again! He cleaned it up before going away on holiday to get some of the grime off it!
He'll be curse word off that his car's been nicked, he'll be curse word off that his neighbours told strangers that he's on holiday & I'd imagine he's now having a pretty rubbish holiday!
Comments stating that it was lifted just in time & other comments I've read elsewhere stating that at least now it'll get some care are completely insensitive & uncalled for!
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May 11, 2016 20:16:43 GMT
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Yes i agree . Some poor sod has had there car nicked ! It may well end up cut up into pieces !
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May 11, 2016 20:24:08 GMT
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From the list of described mods, I just assumed it was a sleeper!
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May 11, 2016 20:40:58 GMT
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Yes , but basically saying it was nicked in time before it rusted away is idiotic . I appreciate that you may not do anything 'tongue in cheek' but the main point stands and it continues to stand that this thread is utterly rammed with stolen cars that have had barely any kind of security applied to them at all, you know it, I know it and so does everybody else. Its become a broken record, car gets lifted with apparent ease, car either disappears forever or turns up but nobody bothers to tell people about how it went and how it was found. We all know that determined thieves can and will take cars no matter what but, honestly, does that car look even remotely secure from an easy pinch? Has the owner been living in a cave for the last year and not realised that we are in the middle of an epidemic of stolen classics? In the meantime people like you and me will see our premiums rise as insurers weigh out considerably more than they earned in their charge for insuring that Capri, E Type, Escort etc etc. This is affecting everybody, the victim isn't just the fella that has left his anglebox to rot away gently for three years, its affecting everybodys premiums and the industry out there serving our needs. Yeah, I hate the fact that his car HIS BLOODY car has been taken but I hate it more that he didn't try hard enough to protect it and I hate the sanctimonious attitude of people that believe we should all give a considerable monkeys about these cars going missing when the owners have, in many cases, been so lax.
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May 11, 2016 21:27:01 GMT
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? Has the owner been living in a cave for the last year and not realised that we are in the middle of an epidemic of stolen classics? Comments like that make me laugh. My parents own a classic car and they have no idea how many get nicked simply because they don't use the Internet. It seems that it's only being brought to light through forums or Facebook, so I'd guess that the majority of older owners wouldn't have a clue either.
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May 11, 2016 21:50:41 GMT
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The anglia probably wasn't insured being parked up for so long, so it won't effect anyone's premiums.
I pretty much always have a classic parked in a similar way to the anglia. Unfortunately there is only so much you can do to secure them. An alarm is no good on a car that's left for large amounts of time, trackers are useless, as are disk locks and such when cars are being lifted away. You mention a post could he put in but what good is that against a hiab?
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May 11, 2016 21:52:37 GMT
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? Has the owner been living in a cave for the last year and not realised that we are in the middle of an epidemic of stolen classics? Comments like that make me laugh. My parents own a classic car and they have no idea how many get nicked simply because they don't use the Internet.
It seems that it's only being brought to light through forums or Facebook, so I'd guess that the majority of older owners wouldn't have a clue either. So you never told them then........... That's an argument weaker than milky tea. All the cars on here, with the very odd exception, have been owned by people that are fully aware of the value, at the very least. I'm over 50 and own classic cars so how old do I need to be to not have a clue? That's a massively disparaging statement to 'older owners.' I suppose if you are in your 70s you have never heard of t'internet or ever bought motoring publications.
What do you think the elderly do? Sit in their own wee?? That generation is one of the key drivers of our hobby, they are building cars on here and charging around the country in Rover P4s and Austin Healeys. They are the generation with the time and disposable income and the hobby needs them. Your parents are in a small minority, your assertion holds no water. The vast majority are also VERY computer literate, I know that for a fact. They are sharper than we are!
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May 11, 2016 21:54:43 GMT
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The anglia probably wasn't insured being parked up for so long, so it won't effect anyone's premiums. I pretty much always have a classic parked in a similar way to the anglia. Unfortunately there is only so much you can do to secure them. An alarm is no good on a car that's left for large amounts of time, trackers are useless, as are disk locks and such when cars are being lifted away. You mention a post could he put in but what good is that against a hiab? The Hiab will probably have a 6ltr diesel running and hydraulic rams groaning away at 2am. There is a better than none chance that somebody may hear something. Better than doing curse word all.
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May 11, 2016 21:57:05 GMT
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You'd think so, yet time and time again that has actually happened, and then you've lost your car and a £50 disklock
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May 11, 2016 22:01:02 GMT
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You'd think so, yet time and time again that has actually happened, and then you've lost your car and a £50 disklock That's a fair comment BUT at least then you have tried, really tried. Come on, how many have REALLY tried to make their car difficult to take? Not enough of them, have they.
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May 11, 2016 22:17:26 GMT
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I wouldn't call fitting a disklock "really trying", the thieves seem to be moving away from needing to be able to steer the car to take it away. That's like saying someone who has fitted a tracker has really tried, even tho thieves now have access to £5 gadgets that make them totally useless. Fitting 'security' that the thieves already have work arounds for is pointless, and slagging people off for not fitting 'security' that thieves already have a work around for is just as pointless. There really is only so much the average Joe can do to secure an old car, unfortunately the thieves seem to be well ahead of people who store their classics in secure lock up's, never mind those who only have a driveway to store them on.
I park a modern motor in front of my retro, but I'm fully aware that that isn't going to stop anyone that wants it bad enough from having it away.
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May 11, 2016 22:34:27 GMT
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I wouldn't call fitting a disklock "really trying", the thieves seem to be moving away from needing to be able to steer the car to take it away. That's like saying someone who has fitted a tracker has really tried, even tho thieves now have access to £5 gadgets that make them totally useless. Fitting 'security' that the thieves already have work arounds for is pointless, and slagging people off for not fitting 'security' that thieves already have a work around for is just as pointless. There really is only so much the average Joe can do to secure an old car, unfortunately the thieves seem to be well ahead of people who store their classics in secure lock up's, never mind those who only have a driveway to store them on. I park a modern motor in front of my retro, but I'm fully aware that that isn't going to stop anyone that wants it bad enough from having it away. No its not going to stop anybody that wants it bad enough so why are you bothering? Why bother locking the car? Why bother doing anything. Look, remember that old fella who had is Anglia van lifted? Owned for nearly 40 years, full of memories of his late wife the van was of no monetary value to him at all, it was all about the memories and nostalgia. That fella you could genuinely weep for, it was probably one of the very few things left in his life that gave him a sense of purpose and a smile. You can contrast that with many others who haven't considered any real security or made any effort, even parking another car infront of it despite knowing that it could be targeted. That's the whole point, because its unlikely to deter the theft doesn't mean you do bog all, you haven't, you have done something. Plenty don't. Its like people have decided that its not worth the bother. People have given up then. Ok.
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May 11, 2016 22:42:43 GMT
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How do you know the chap with the green anglia hadn't done something? Do you know that he didn't have a modern parked in front of it? Or a post at the end of his drive? Do you know for sure that it didn't have a disklock on it when it was stolen?
Genuine questions
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Last Edit: May 11, 2016 22:44:38 GMT by roccoguy
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May 11, 2016 23:01:08 GMT
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How do you know the chap with the green anglia hadn't done something? Do you know that he didn't have a modern parked in front of it? Or a post at the end of his drive? Do you know for sure that it didn't have a disklock on it when it was stolen? Genuine questions He could have, that's true. Honestly? My job ive done for 26+ years has taken me to something like 75,000+ homes, I can now look at a front door and know exactly whats behind it, the people that live there, the lot. Some of the dirtiest homes have been mansions, the cleanest, council flats. Cars on driveways, cars parked on front gardens with grass growing beyond sill height, ive seen it all. That Anglia? Hmmm, maybe it does have a post infront of it ( no suggestion it had to be lifted over ) and maybe the axle was chained and anchored to a point on the drive behind it. It just doesn't LOOK like its been cared for, held in regard, cherished or desired even though the engine spec screams petrol head. I will apologise profusely if ive misread the signs.
Genuine questions. Can you honestly say that people, per se, really do enough to protect their assets? Do you truly believe that finding your Classic pinched from a lock up that you haven't visited for months is really going to be found when the owner hasn't a clue exactly when it was taken? That's happened. If you wouldn't leave £5K in £20 notes in a lock up for months on end without checking its still there, let alone on your driveway unsecured why leave a £5K classic car when it seems that the car is equally as easy to make disappear?
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