BT
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Feb 23, 2016 18:49:45 GMT
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Hello RR.
I need some help please.
I recently bought a new truck and some plum has put a right shoddy set of tyres on the thing. Road tyres up front, odd sized mud tyres in the rear, its all over the shop!
I have never had to replace tyres on a truck like this and I am pretty stumped as to what I actually need. Car tyres no problem, I understand that perfectly fine. The only tyre that actually seems like it should be there is a 235/75 R15.
I really want some mud tyres, I could do with them for a few byways and I would be able to do more at my local pay and play sites. Which would be nice. Problem is, they're pretty pricey. So, as I do with most things I got searching and have found a set of part used mud tyres, still with a tonne of tread on them for a very fair price. Problem is I don't know if they will fit and the sizing is in a fashion I am unfamiliar with.
So the tyre I have on there that seems right is a 235/75. The tyres I am looking at are 31"x10.5. Would these fit?
My current tyres are 235 and 10.5 seems to equate to 265, if I round it down for the simplicity of things for the minute.
Would the 31x10.5 fit my wheels? I know I haven't listed the size of my current wheels, that's because I don't know what they are!
Any help would be excellent.
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Feb 23, 2016 19:13:14 GMT
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Without knowing what your truck even is I would say go for it with the 31" tyres. Only 30mm wider than the 235 you have which would mean extra 15mm either side of the rim?
All I know is anything less than mud terrain in an off road situation will be fairly useless unless conditions are bone dry.
Measure from the edge of your rims outwards. If you think you will safely fit 8" of tyre under your arches then I'd say you're sorted.
I fitted a set of used 31x10.5 mud terrain tyres to my old Suzuki Sj rims. They were great. Do it! lol
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Feb 23, 2016 19:16:10 GMT
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Hi, 31/10.50/15 are 31" diameter, 10.5" wide. It's an American system of measurement. 235/75/15 are 29" diameter and 235 are 235mm or 9 1/4" tread width plus any sidewall bulge.
Depending how much road driving you do. Mud tyres are pretty treacherous on wet roads because of the limited rubber in contact with road. All terrains are better but still have their moments. Can you run two sets of wheels and tyres?
Colin
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Feb 23, 2016 19:29:21 GMT
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Yeah Should have said that mud terrain aren't much cop in the road holding department but as mine were fitted to a little SJ it didn't really matter. It would have fallen over before breaking traction! lol  |
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alecf
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Feb 23, 2016 19:41:49 GMT
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Need to know the car really
As there are so many possibilities. One of my old discos we cut he arches back by 2" to accommodate the tyres and flex of the suspension.
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BT
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Feb 23, 2016 19:50:28 GMT
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Thank you all very much for the replies chaps.
Sorry, I always forget something vital.
The truck is a classic L200. From my brief Google session they will fit inside the restraints of the l200 arches, my concern was more if they would suitably fit on the rim.
I currently have BF mud terrains on the rear and to be honest I would be quite happy with that all round. They do break traction quite often, but to be fair it is very predictable, and I may (read that as certainly) drive the truck at times in a way that may result in a bit of sideways action. Just because it makes me grin.
Other than larking about in the mud, The truck is only really used for driving to work, only a few miles with the most of 40mph. Runs to the dump and part collecting.
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Feb 23, 2016 21:21:24 GMT
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Second hand 'off road' tyres ..... Check,check and double check the condition of the side walls, compared to 'normal' rd tyres the sidewalls take a heck of a beating off roading,it's my experience the sidewalls give out way before the tread wears to anywhere near needing replacement.
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Feb 23, 2016 21:30:36 GMT
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Need to know the car really As there are so many possibilities. One of my old discos we cut he arches back by 2" to accommodate the tyres and flex of the suspension. Yep been there! Fitted 265/85r16 to my 200tdi disco ..... Even with a 4inch rear lift it chewed the arches ...... |
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BT
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Feb 23, 2016 22:32:05 GMT
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Thanks very much mr prime, it's something totally new to me and I was unaware of this. I have to be honest, part worn tyres are something I've never had much to do with, but when the cost of some decent tyres is half what I paid for the truck it got me thinking.
Will give the sidewalls a thorough check.
Thanks
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Feb 23, 2016 22:36:56 GMT
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L200 has masses of room under the arches. Think I fitted 33" to my old Shogun with no clearance issues but it was raised a bit.
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Feb 23, 2016 22:43:00 GMT
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Thanks very much mr prime, it's something totally new to me and I was unaware of this. I have to be honest, part worn tyres are something I've never had much to do with, but when the cost of some decent tyres is half what I paid for the truck it got me thinking. Will give the sidewalls a thorough check. Thanks No worries .... Bit timely this .... Having to replace all 4 on my current disco due to sidewalls ......... |
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I had the same quandary with my Pajero, when I bought it it needed two tyres replacing. I couldn't decide whether to change all 4 to 31s or just replace the 2 with the standard size. In the end, I kept with the standard size and just did some research into which were the best Mud tyres in that size, I use it on the road a lot so I didn't want to compromise the grip on tarmac. It's never got stuck when I've been playing.  |
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Feb 24, 2016 21:45:14 GMT
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For most pay and play couldnt you just run a/t tyres? I had general grabbers on a really wet play day and was unstoppable, and lot better / cheaper on road.  |
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Feb 24, 2016 23:41:53 GMT
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+1 on A/T. I ran BFG A/ts on my P38 in the UK and did several off-road rallies without any problems. Here I've got Yokohama Geolander A/T (I can't get BFG) in 165/70x16 flavour.  Done some good off-roading, well, sort of on-road, but over landslides and through washouts without issue. Don't wear excessively like M/Ts do and nice and quiet on-road as well. I had to set the suspension, at standard height, around an inch higher to cure some mud flap rubbing issues, but that's all. A pal of mine had huge Simex M/Ts on his Pajero in KL and whilst it looked all butch, you could hear it coming a mile away on the road, handling was not the finest and there was never anywhere I couldn't follow him in a D-Max with standard tyres. So whilst there is a place for mud tyres, much is down to the driver than anything else. |
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alex
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I can vouch for BFG Mud Terrains. I don't think they are particularly noisy (certainly less noisy than even an AT tread of cheap tyres I've had). They seem to wear pretty well considering. My opinion is you will irritated and Pay and Play sites if you go for AT. If you get stuck you'll be forever thinking 'maybe it was the tyres' or you'll be scooting round the really muddy bits in fear of getting stuck rather than just thinking sod it, let's go for it. I have only been to two P&P sites...ATs would be frustrating (seen cars with ATs just slipping about all over the place and getting stuck half way up hills even with a run-up whereas similar spec cars but with decent rubber could walk up it...it's just not about skill in my opinion) Running 255/85/16 BFG here (equivalent to 33")  |
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Last Edit: Feb 25, 2016 0:02:23 GMT by alex
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BT
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Feb 25, 2016 10:27:26 GMT
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Thank you all guys for your replies and input, it is appreciated. Especially the photos!
The tyres that I have my eyes on are BFG Mud-terrains, they aren't massively expensive so if they're naff I'll bin them and try some A/T of some kind.
On my old ranger I had some Cooper A/T and they were excellent, but let me down a bit in the mud.
Will keep this updated with what ends up being fitted.
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alex
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Feb 25, 2016 11:46:30 GMT
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I would be very surprised if you find BFG Muds naff! Look forward to seeing pictures of you not being stuck  |
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These work for me...  ...althought this car doesn't get much road use. They vibrate a bit through the steering and make a lot of noise on the seal. These used to be very popular in rural areas too. Not sure if they are still available though.  |
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I would be very surprised if you find BFG Muds naff! Look forward to seeing pictures of you not being stuck Agree with this. Had them on a 90. Not too noisy and fairly well behaved on-road. |
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Feb 26, 2016 19:19:09 GMT
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I ran 31 x 10.5 a/t tyres on our old Maverick. I used to take great delight in stepping the back end out on wet roundabouts thanks to the knobbly tyres and lsd
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