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Feb 22, 2016 10:34:05 GMT
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Driving the old hillman yesterday was fun for about 10 mins until it steamed up so much that i couldn't see out. The problem is that i don't have any heaters as i had to take it out as the standard hillman one was knackered and doesn't fit anymore anyway due to the modifications i had to make to fit the mazda engine. When browsing the for sale ads a few days back, someone suggested a fitting Peugeot electric heater matrix as a fix for leaky matrix (I cant remember which advert it was though) which i thought i might be able to use with a couple of fans behind it to clear the windscreen. I'm not too fussed about heating the car up, I'd just like to be able to see where i'm heading  Has anyone on here used a Pug heater matrix, or know which models they came in? Or have any recommendations ? I have tried using a generic ebay 12v fan heater , but it only had enough power to clear the bottom 2" of the screen! Ta, James |
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Too many projects, not enough time.
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Feb 22, 2016 11:15:24 GMT
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Some of the Japanese import 4x4s come with a ceramic heater option for fast demisting before the engine warms up. I can't remember which off hand but they pull a LOT of power from the battery.
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sonus
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Feb 22, 2016 13:37:10 GMT
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No help on the electric ones, but have you looked at T7 Design heaters? I am considering their 3.5kW one
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kenb
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Feb 22, 2016 14:10:42 GMT
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Feb 22, 2016 15:19:30 GMT
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I'd say stick with an engine coolant heater. Would a classic Mini item fit ? There are plenty of choices if you check our kit car parts suppliers.
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hario
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Feb 29, 2016 16:33:59 GMT
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A modern heater core from a breakers is surely your best bet? They don't really go wrong these days and a modern one will blow the socks off any electric heater or Mini core I've experienced..
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phil1380
East Midlands
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I've been looking into PTC (positive temperature co-efficient) electric heaters as fitted to modern diesel engined vehicles for fast demisting. There are all sorts of different sized units fitted to various PSA, Ford, Fiat-Alfa and VW vehicles.
These are usually fitted "downstream" of the water heater matrix, the nice thing about these electric heaters is they are pretty much self-regulating, and as the water heating matrix warms the incoming air to the electric heating element it's current consumption reduces.
The earlier versions are pretty much "just" resistive heating elements, usually two or three elements consuming 10-20 Amps each. Some have the elements commoned together so you see only two or three wires or connectors to them.
The later Ford and VW ones have a PWM input which controls the heating current, so not quite so easy to retrofit as the earlier ones.
If you are thinking of retrofitting to a classic you need to check the output of your generator/dynamo/alternator as a four element heater will pull about 45 amps - which is the capacity of an old 16ACR alternator. The battery would supplement the current requirement but you would be pulling power from the battery rather than charging it while the heater was "on", and if you have the headlights, heater fan, radio, screen heater, fuel pump, ignition etc all on at the same time your battery will be flat in no time !!
You would also need some suitably sized cables and circuit protection (fuses), a couple of heavy duty relays, and maybe a timer relay or indicator lamp so you don't forget to turn it off.
Phil.
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Iain
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Kit car matrix and fan heaters are definitely worth looking at, £100 odd I think now.
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Kieran
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The 12v cigarette lighters ones are pretty useless, it's like babies breath.
I've bought one of the T7 units for my Skoda project. They are dinky, meant to give out good heat, just a little noisy if it bothers you.
The electrical heaters will have a very large current demand, so make sure your charging system is up to it.
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The Ashby Jackson fleet:-
1979 Mini Clubman 1.8 K series
1978 Skoda 110r Project 130RS K-oupe
1978 Austin Allegro 1500 SDL Estate
1984 BMW K100 Sidecar outfit
1999 Yamaha FZS 1000 Fazer
1991 Kawasaki ZXR400 race bike
2002 Kawasaki ZX9r race bike
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gazz81
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I can confirm that these are an absolute waste of time!!! I bought one as a temporary screen demister for when the blower packed up on my work van, I reckon the best it ever managed was a playing card size window after about 30 minutes! |
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I have a slip on heated seat cover that I use in winter when car heater takes a while to warm up the car. Plenty on eBay for under £10 (mine cost 99p plus postage)
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gazz81
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They don't do a great job of clearing the screen though!!
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