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Nov 17, 2015 20:50:54 GMT
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I witnessed my first case of diesel runaway today. Some guy pulled up outside my lads primary school in his vectra smoke pouring out of the back! It was very dramatic, went and told him to try and stall it to get it to stop but by the time he jumped in the car it died! Anyone else had this happen to them?
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Last Edit: Nov 17, 2015 20:52:04 GMT by retrorob86
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Nov 17, 2015 22:08:07 GMT
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Seen it happen on a Rover 400 once. Can be a scary experience.
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Nov 17, 2015 22:10:56 GMT
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the mazda 6 diesels like to do this when doing a dpf regen,
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Nov 17, 2015 22:11:16 GMT
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Heard a Peugeot 405 DT do it the owner had been a little over enthusiastic topping the oil up, cue many many revs followed by a sudden stop and a trip to the breakers
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v8ian
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Nov 17, 2015 22:13:11 GMT
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style. Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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MrSpeedy
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Nov 17, 2015 22:17:21 GMT
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Our old Astravan tried to do it once, when the turbo oil seals had gone. Fortunately I knew what was happening, so stalled it before it had chance to get carried away.
Had a 1920s' 2 stroke Petter semi diesel run away once, running on the WD40 in the sump, until it burnt it all off. No lasting damage on that, thankfully.
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Nov 17, 2015 22:19:43 GMT
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Had it happen on a nearly new Movano van when i worked for Vauxhall. The tech had double filled it with oil by accident during a service and it just took off on its own when i pulled it out of the shop.Clouds of smoke,max revs it lasted about a minute before it went bang. Key was out of course but i couldn't stall the thing even with the brakes full on and dumping the clutch. Don't know who ended up paying for the new motor but i remember it cost about 3 grand.
It was a mix of slightly scary and funny.I had a bloke panicking and shouting "turn it off,turn it off" while i waved the key at him through the window !
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Del
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I'd never heard of this before reading this thread. Having borrowed a diesel a few times, but never owned one, I imagine it would have put the willies right up me if it had happened.
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Midas
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It happened to quite a few of our Renault Scenics when they were up to 80 to 100k on the clock.
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Kieran
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Dads 205 derv used to do it, think it was a diaphragm on the vacuum pump I think.
Saw a guy next to ldv van once on the side of the m1 waving his keys at it, as smoke poured out of it.
Either choke it of air (brave man approaches an engine trying to rod itself!), stall it, let it rod itself or let it empty its sump down its throat!
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This happened to a friend's 306 when the HG failed, he tried stalling it but it just span up in 5th!
Ended up ejecting lots of bits of metal through the sump into the road.
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Nov 18, 2015 11:12:09 GMT
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^^^^ this on a clio, even stuffed a wet rag in the air pipe to kill it for it 2 curse word it self outside the unit
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Nov 18, 2015 12:03:28 GMT
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Had it happen on a nearly new Movano van when i worked for Vauxhall. The tech had double filled it with oil by accident during a service and it just took off on its own when i pulled it out of the shop.Clouds of smoke,max revs it lasted about a minute before it went bang. Key was out of course but i couldn't stall the thing even with the brakes full on and dumping the clutch. Don't know who ended up paying for the new motor but i remember it cost about 3 grand. It was a mix of slightly scary and funny.I had a bloke panicking and shouting "turn it off,turn it off" while i waved the key at him through the window ! They do that a lot ! i went with a mate to buy a 2nd hand movano from a dealer and it went on the test drive (couldn't stall that in 5th as the box shat itself when i tried), bought the van next to it (another movano) and that went about 6 months later on the A303, stalled it ok that time, stamped on the brakes and dumped it in 4th (i reconed that was the strongest gear least likely to explode the box?), changed the turbo and got another 40K out of it. When i fitted the new turbo we got a modified drain pipe from renault that was supposed to cure it , apparently the oil drain to the sump was a restriction and caused the oil to back up in the turbo and force it's way past the seal making it diesel, strangly enough all the parts (appart from the turbo) were cheaper from vauxhall than from renault Essex turbos did us a recon turbo with uprated seal and bearing, PITA job stuck right at the back of the engine ! other than that had a S3 LR swb 2.5 do it, all the rest have been repair jobs i never saw the origional dieseling happen to, a couple passats, an LT and a scenic that was only on 20K when it went but had never been serviced cos the daft cow who owned it didn't know it needed servicing ! i get that "kind" of customer all the time .
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Last Edit: Nov 18, 2015 12:05:22 GMT by bortaf
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Nov 18, 2015 12:37:53 GMT
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My 53 plate Rover 25 2-litre diesel did that to me several years ago coming home on the M5, my first (and only so far) turbo diesel. I hadn't got a clue what was happening so just stopped on the hard shoulder with masses of smoke pouring out of the exhaust. Turned the engine off, no change so then went into headless chicken mode. Popped bonnet open, just started to lift it when plod screech to a halt, one jumps out of their car, jumps in mine and stalled it. Happened between J27 and J28 in the cutting at Willand where the old A38 goes over the M5 - managed to lay a smoke screen across all 6 lanes of the motorway.
Have to say plod were very good, even called Britannia Rescue for me as I had no mobile at the time. Flatbedded home, started the car up on the drive, turbo gone but no rattles or other nasty noises from the engine. Fitted a new turbo, went for a run up through the hills (to burn off what oil was left in the exhaust system) and job done.
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Nov 18, 2015 12:42:16 GMT
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One of the reasons I carry a fire extinguisher in the car, so I can starve the engine of air if it should ever runaway.
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Nov 18, 2015 15:56:07 GMT
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Had it happen on a nearly new Movano van when i worked for Vauxhall. The tech had double filled it with oil by accident during a service and it just took off on its own when i pulled it out of the shop.Clouds of smoke,max revs it lasted about a minute before it went bang. Key was out of course but i couldn't stall the thing even with the brakes full on and dumping the clutch. Don't know who ended up paying for the new motor but i remember it cost about 3 grand. It was a mix of slightly scary and funny.I had a bloke panicking and shouting "turn it off,turn it off" while i waved the key at him through the window ! They do that a lot ! i went with a mate to buy a 2nd hand movano from a dealer and it went on the test drive (couldn't stall that in 5th as the box shat itself when i tried), bought the van next to it (another movano) and that went about 6 months later on the A303, stalled it ok that time, stamped on the brakes and dumped it in 4th (i reconed that was the strongest gear least likely to explode the box?), changed the turbo and got another 40K out of it. When i fitted the new turbo we got a modified drain pipe from renault that was supposed to cure it , apparently the oil drain to the sump was a restriction and caused the oil to back up in the turbo and force it's way past the seal making it diesel, strangly enough all the parts (appart from the turbo) were cheaper from vauxhall than from renault Essex turbos did us a recon turbo with uprated seal and bearing, PITA job stuck right at the back of the engine ! other than that had a S3 LR swb 2.5 do it, all the rest have been repair jobs i never saw the origional dieseling happen to, a couple passats, an LT and a scenic that was only on 20K when it went but had never been serviced cos the daft cow who owned it didn't know it needed servicing ! i get that "kind" of customer all the time . Interesting..didn't know it was so common on them and there was a mod for it,mind you sticking 16 litres of semi in there wouldn't help! I tried stalling it in 5th before i bailed out.From memory it threw my foot of the brakes with the violence of it the first time and slipped/broke the 2nd time,the cab was getting some smoke in by then and i decided it was time to go Happened right outside the showroom reception,great bit of brand advertising ! Agree with the parts prices,often cheaper from Vauxhall for the Renaults,it was the same with many Isuzu bits as well.
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Nov 19, 2015 20:17:05 GMT
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I had it happen to me in my 1960 Land Rover ,with Isuzu 2.8 turbo, towing a caravan. I was travelling from North wales to bath on a hot day......heavy traffic on the A38, pull off up a slip road to a roundabout, see a space and accelerate out, and accelerate more, and more, and more. Massive amount of smoke and then realised what was going on! I hit the brakes and managed to stall it, I don't think I could have stopped it if it weren't for the 2 ton caravan, the power was bloody brilliant, but very scary. I did make it home to Wiltshire but it tried to take off again whenever it got a bit hot. Following an investigation, the bores and rings were completely gummed up, so I realised that running veg oil in some direct injection engines is not such a good idea! I did get about 6 years out of it though!
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Nov 19, 2015 21:36:45 GMT
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One of the reasons I carry a fire extinguisher in the car, so I can starve the engine of air if it should ever runaway. This
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Nov 19, 2015 21:41:24 GMT
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Don't think I would of attempted to stop that!
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