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Apr 22, 2007 22:25:00 GMT
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now, this is a hard admision to make, but today i... erm,... well, you know... learnt how to sew. not only this, i did so whilst watching sister act. i want to go and cry. although i'll ruin my mascara... my mum wouldnt do it for me, so i had to myself. i promise we have a suitably macho reason why!  fitted today a set of shoulder squishers. to this:  this is the first revealed shots of this car since the thread of yonks ago. it is a tribute to the legend that was my favorat. its called FavorAt 2. which was very original of me, i thought. worryingly, i just got up to let my mum in the house whilst writing this, and erm... did a ballerina leap across the kitchen to the back door. and even landed gracefully despite overcompensatory combat boots. oh dear... so one of the two sides had a broken buckle. so took a knife, cut the threads, and removed both the buckle and the clip. then did the same with the middle rear bench attachements from the stripped rear, and learnt how to sew. badly.  the whole thing needed done here, the downstrap and the belt strap. it took ages, and a lot of string. seems solid :s will test on guinea pig soon  and on this side the rolls at the end of the adjusting strps needed done, altho put the strap back onto the shoulder strap the wrong way round and had to pull it apart again!  but now thats all done, they are pretty comfortable. roofrack won on ebay btw.  mixed reception so far. already been slapped for one the slogans on the doors lol. |
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Apr 22, 2007 22:31:07 GMT
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 Not sure what my mum would say to this! [It was her car].
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Apr 22, 2007 22:40:30 GMT
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Have you sewn your own seatbelts? I'm not one for these scare threads (banded wheels, stretched tyres, cut springs etc) but seat belts are not something I'd be testing my sewing skills on. I'm guessing that a seat belt/harness manufacturer has to have a massive amount of testing before they get their TUV/E markings/approval - and that they used some pretty serious machinery to get to that stage.
On top of that, why do I think that there's a good and bad way to mount harnesses - and that the good way involves not mounting them to the floor?
Truthfully, I'm in over my head here on this subject. I hope that you're not. Anyone more qualified want to set me straight?
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Apr 22, 2007 22:44:36 GMT
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On top of that, why do I think that there's a good and bad way to mount harnesses - and that the good way involves not mounting them to the floor? Truthfully, I'm in over my head here on this subject. I hope that you're not. Anyone more qualified want to set me straight? I've probably got this wrong, but I *think* that by having the rear strap bolted to the floor (ie, so it runs diagonally down from the back of the seat) it'll crush your spine down in an accident. You're supposed to have them mounted to a bar across the rear (IE a section of roll cage or re-enforced parcel shelf) so that they run horizontally from the back of the seat. I think. I may be wrong  |
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Last Edit: Apr 22, 2007 22:45:55 GMT by DarrenW
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Apr 22, 2007 22:45:06 GMT
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never thought mounting them to the floor was anything other than the accepted method?
(sidenote that doesn't run with original posts style - did actually test as best i could for strength, seemed ok. and judging by what i cut off, probably used a higher qaulity thread too)
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Apr 22, 2007 23:01:20 GMT
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A PDF all about harness installation: www.hmsmotorsport.com/docs/Competition_Instructions.pdfquite interesting but I'm going to bed now so haven't read properly ;D  Your stock Skoda seats aren't, I reckon, designed to take impact stresses and loads from the angles that your harnesses may (hopefully never!) subject them to... The other thing is that, judging from the first pic, the belts run at an angle towards the centre of the car, so in a head-on crash your body/the seat is going to get twisted around. Wouldn't place much money on my spine surviving that too well  But I honestly know very little, I'm just surmising ;D |
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Last Edit: Apr 22, 2007 23:25:26 GMT by DarrenW
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madmart
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i totally agree with rmad on this one, though I'm not a qualified seatbelt fitter. and ive seen some shocking things like a seatbelt that had snapped in a accident because it had a nick in the side of the webbing!
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ratty
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Apr 23, 2007 11:19:10 GMT
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will be changing position on them asap now folks, cheers.
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SteveP
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Apr 23, 2007 12:03:43 GMT
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+1 to everything else that has been said!
Why not fit a cage and some proper harnesses? I think Safety Devices make cages for Favorits/Felicias still. That way you'll be able to mount them properly on a horizontal bar.
It'll have even more of a rally slag look to it then ;D
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Apr 23, 2007 12:05:50 GMT
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as others have said - ditch the belts and get some proper harnesses.
you only live once, no point taking unnecessary chances
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Dez
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Apr 23, 2007 12:08:32 GMT
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your stock 3 point retractable seatbelts were a million times safer!!
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Apr 23, 2007 12:14:52 GMT
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Apr 23, 2007 13:05:28 GMT
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hey - very humurous and a nice story(with pics !) but... sewing seat belts and having the rear restaint on the floor are both bad news. I'm sure 100% of people are being helpful and not trying to destroy your good mood. Does your bonfire smell of wee wee... ? Sorry dood.  |
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Apr 23, 2007 13:40:21 GMT
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it does rather lol but whats this i read of ditching 'belts'? a harness is a harnes right, surely sparco don't make cheap&nasty? have been moved higher as a temporary measure. sorting some sort of proper mounting as we speak. (ps - please realise that as long as a car is legal, i care 0.003% about safety to myself lol. i wont run bald tyres etc that endanger other road users, but if i die in a crash, well, meh ) |
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Apr 23, 2007 13:42:27 GMT
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hmmm, those are mounted to the floor as well is that ok becasue of the seats? if so, i might just hurry up putting int eh bucket seats? would that appease? |
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Apr 23, 2007 15:30:14 GMT
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it looks well cool, but safety shouldn't be comprimised.
both the safety of you and other road users.
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Apr 23, 2007 17:34:19 GMT
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(ps - please realise that as long as a car is legal, I care 0.003% about safety to myself lol. I wont run bald tyres etc that endanger other road users, but if I die in a crash, well, meh ) maybe ,but spare a thought for the guy (or gal) who has to scoop your brains up and reunite them your head after you've been through your screen.i'm not sure that they would pass an mot anyway and if a scrutineer saw them well lets just say i don't need anymore cats. |
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Apr 23, 2007 17:45:57 GMT
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8-)I want to see some more pics of this car ...in daylight! |
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Apr 23, 2007 18:02:07 GMT
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The maxmum pemissible angle they can be at according to MSA regulations is 45deg below horizontal and something like 10deg over (il have to get the book out to check) but thats MSA regs. So long as your not too far out i think it will be fine.
That scan is for when your using a hans device
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Not sure what my mum would say to this! [It was her car]. 
