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Five - Oh! - FourDarrenW
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Mar 30, 2014 18:24:06 GMT
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I found these pics: and I can't remember the last time I saw a stock one on the road, let alone anything like that. Who has had one? Are they as bulletproof as legend suggests? Are the estates truly maHOOsive? ...and of course more pics are welcome!
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Mar 30, 2014 19:22:13 GMT
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Plus they are RWD Paul H
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stealthstylz
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Five - Oh! - Fourstealthstylz
@stealthstylz
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Mar 30, 2014 19:25:42 GMT
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That look menacing in the top photos. Kind of makes me want to keep the Granada black.
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fred
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Mar 30, 2014 23:42:46 GMT
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I cant remember the last time I saw one either top pic looks like the owner doesnt really like conversation
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The estates are indeed truly massive. Had one years ago and with all the camping gear in there, it still looked empty. Kept thinking we'd forgotten something! We'd also taken an inflatable and outboard with us and once the back was empty, the boat could go in inflated.
The only time it ever let us down was when the gear linkages started popping out, due to wear, but apart from that, it was pretty much bombproof.
Mind, back then, it was still fairly new, so no rust issues.
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Yes, they were good for rust!!
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I've got an engine out of one as a spare - they use the same XD lump as my Mahindra. So I don't think the diesels will be very quick Paul H
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luckyseven
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Five - Oh! - Fourluckyseven
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My Waffs old man had an estate when they lived in West Africa. That neck of the woods has (or had) loads of old Peugeots and that due to the French colonialism; Benin, Cote d'Ivoire, Nigeria, all round there. It was indeed immense, and coped with the genuinely terrible roads stoically. The floppy suspension that's a curse on smooth tarmac is ideal in more agricultural settings, it's almost like Peugeot wanted to build an offroader but the accountants wanted to sell it to families and market traders instead so they put a humongous wagon body on at the last minute. It could transport the entire family, household staff, chicken coops, goats, all with equal facility and without complaint
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79cord
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Mar 31, 2014 10:12:07 GMT
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Yep ground clearance even on the sedans was pretty ample, something like 20cm. They had a reputation of being popular with farmers here too as a result. Seeing them massively lowered certainly changes the look. I know there's at least one around here with a 604 V6. Surprised the suspension geometry of the IRS wasn't all over the place on the lowered sedan, though Peugeot may have offered a more basic Live rear axle for some markets?
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Last Edit: Mar 31, 2014 10:15:25 GMT by 79cord
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Mar 31, 2014 10:34:54 GMT
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There was also a 4x4 conversion by Dangel. Popular still in rural areas but prices high even for old & tatty versions. Paul h
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Mar 31, 2014 13:05:11 GMT
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Loads went to affrica and the gulf, had a mate who had one for his daily while at college and someone nicked it, when he went to the old bill they said that's funny you're the 5th person to report a 504 being stollen, even the old bill thought there must be a pattern and said they were probably already on a ship......
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Mar 31, 2014 19:29:23 GMT
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Most of the 504s and 505s left alive (or nearly alive) have "retired" to Africa where they are working harder than ever........
They are remarkably tough where rust isn't an issue and very capable on bad roads. We had the mechanically very similar 404 Wagon in the late 70s to mid 80s in southern Africa and that was still running at around 200k when sold (not diesel) in spite of minimal maintenance and lots of very curse word roads. It was a '74 built in South Africa and it's looks were spoilt for ever by a hailstorm in Jo'burg which deeply dimpled every upward facing panel, even the creases on the tops of the wings.
Dad then had a new 504 wagon when he moved to Syria (taxi/institution spec). That was in about '85 so must have been one of the last made and it wasn't great. Bits used to fall off (nothing major, just the odd door and the tailgate!).
504 saloons were available with IRS or live axle with the live axle cars being much more durable. All the estates had a live axle with double coil springs side by side on each side and located by torque-tube pivoting on the back of the gearbox + panhard rod. Weird.....
Nick
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Mar 31, 2014 19:52:58 GMT
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