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Mar 27, 2014 11:13:15 GMT
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One of these came up on Ebay recently and despite bidding up to £285 I lost out. It went for £310 Anyway. I'm going to try to make one. 2 questions: - what would you call the two handled central threaded spinner thing? they use crude ones on scaffold legs
- where might you find something similar to the domed metal spacer
what's the proper name for two-handled family-gradunzas?where can you get metal domes?
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Last Edit: Mar 27, 2014 11:14:04 GMT by foxy99
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Mar 27, 2014 12:08:45 GMT
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Hi, the two handled central threaded spinner thingy' is called a wing or fly nut and could be made by welding 2 or 3 nuts together and welding some round bar to it. The spacer or spreader plates can be improvised from steel stock or plate. Most of your time, money and effort should be spent on the central threaded bar, use a good quality one not just a length of 12mm allthreaded studding used on building sites. They might be OK for a couple of uses but it can be quite dramatic when they let go with a load on.
Colin
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MrSpeedy
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Mar 27, 2014 17:41:14 GMT
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The key here is how many times do you want to use it for?
Depending on what length the thread is, can you buy an old car jack and rob the thread and carrier off it?
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I would be rich if i had not spent so much money on Cars and fast women...oh, i did waste some of it as well!
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Mar 30, 2014 12:31:56 GMT
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Depending on what length the thread is, can you buy an old car jack and rob the thread and carrier off it? I'd be tempted to use the threaded portion externally to the main clamp, and simply use some steel bar welded to the end of the threaded section. You could then make it as long as you needed, whilst still being able to use the full length of the scissor jack thread for squishing the spring I wouldn't worry about the domed section, it seems to only be there to allow the spring base support to pivot if it needs. Make the base "industrial" and it shouldn't matter
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Last Edit: Mar 30, 2014 12:33:06 GMT by chairchild
You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Mar 30, 2014 19:11:28 GMT
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Wondering what all those weird bits on the bottom are for?
I've got loads of old sicissor jacks if you want to buy one and take the thread out of it.
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foxy99
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Mar 30, 2014 23:28:37 GMT
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Thanks for all the input guys. I had a look under the car the other day and coupled with a bit of searching online it seems that it might be simpler to deal with than I first thought. Wondering what all those weird bits on the bottom are for? There are indeed a lot of weird bits on it, but they are actually at the top. The oblong thing with the point seems to be to lock against the pressing on top of the subframe (you can just make this out in my pics). Don't know what the bit above it is. Integral with the thread to act as a stop/limiter perhaps. The first flat washer I don't know but the large part is designed to sit inside the lower spring seat-pan pressing and I guess the 2 holes it in are simply to clear the two bolt heads you can see in the pics. The dome below it must just be to help things swivel as you tighten up the spinner and the lower arm moves to the parallel position. view of spring seat-pan from belowrough width of holeand lengthtool comes through hole on top of subframedriver's side viewed from frontpassenger sideThere is 16mm rod/stud available on and it would fit through the holes no problem so would maybe be better to move up a step from 12mm to 16mm. I'm not a fan of (mig) welding nuts as the heat ruins (hardens) the threads but this month I aim to learn to braze and was thinking of buying an old cast lathe wheel or valve handle and brazing an M16 nut into the centre
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Last Edit: Mar 31, 2014 0:05:25 GMT by foxy99
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How queer (as Alfie Atkinson would say).
been looking for one of these tools for a year or two now and one comes up on Ebay last week and went for crazy money as they are obviously thin on the ground.
Now there is another one up. Bids will inevitably go through the roof even tho there is a piece missing
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Damn. The one on Ebay this week went for £94 and I missed the bidding as was at the parents for Sunday dinner. Can't see another one coming up any time soon so back to plan A - make one
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Last Edit: Jan 10, 2016 2:06:36 GMT by foxy99
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I had a closer look at the parts today to check the numbers on them and it seems my assy isn't an original Churchill one, which would explain the less elaborate spinner. I have an OTC/SPX one. Can't find a lot online about the tool I have but OTC are apparently a division of SPX - a company who make specialist automotive tools. One link shows the tool to be over $700 before shipping etc! dealer linkThe link above shows the tool to be suitable for XJ III/XJR/XJS and has the teddy-bear part to the side and the doughnut on the tool which suggests they were alternative parts. Not sure really but on the series 2 that I have am pretty sure the doughnut would have to go below the teddy-bear rather than above it. Am sure it'll all be clear when I use it. doughnut above teddy-beardoughnut below teddy-bearpacman 204-008/1rod 204-008/2doughnut 204-008/04mushroom 204-008/5teddy-bear 204-008/10So there we have it. A later version of the original tool which appears to be identical apart from the spinner. Interestingly the thread is still Imperial. I make it an 11/16 BSW (11 TPI). The nearest metric equivalent would be M18 threaded-rod which is readily available. With a lot of cutting and filing you could cheaply replicate the doughnut and teddy-bear (in two pieces) out of steel plate/tube but the mushroom would be tricky. Where would you get a steel ball that size and how hard would it be to drill an 18mm hole through it? The spinner could be made up with and M18 nut but that wouldn't be a good as a deep threaded 'barrel' like the original. Lastly. Somone on Ebay USA is selling the bit I'm missing for a reasonable $24 but they want $33 to ship it to UK
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Last Edit: Jan 11, 2016 20:35:00 GMT by foxy99
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Feb 22, 2016 11:23:33 GMT
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Hello Foxy 99 , Are you able to provide me with a dimensions of parts ?
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