omegod
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As you do on xmas morning I have spotted a 95 2.3 turbo Aero that is making me weak at the knee's. It's got quite high miles, 190k , but I only do about 3k a year myself so no major issues with that. I need a rundown of mechanical weakspots, rust areas etc as well as any user experience of them. Also is classic insurance available on them??
cheers
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thooms
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Dec 25, 2013 10:50:53 GMT
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Ran one for about 6 months - lovely car. As long as it's been well looked after (fully synth every 6k ish), miles aren't much to worry about - mine had 237k when I sold it and it ran beautifully.
Mine was a bit rusty on one of the rear arches, near where the door shuts. Not a lot goes wrong with then mechanically - fuel pumps can go, and the coil pack (DI cassette - red thing on the cam cover) can fail. The general wisdom is to carry a spare, you can pick them up for £50 - £100.
The cams are chain driven, so listen for slapping when hot. Engine out job to change really, unless you're a proper masochist. You can check the state of the chain by measuring how far the plunger on the tensioner has moved.
Can't think of anything else - mine needed an alternator and a PAS pump, but that's fair game on any car with big miles. Massively strong engines, they're intensely tunable, especially the Aero as it had the TD04.
Do it - I really miss mine!
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Last Edit: Dec 25, 2013 10:56:09 GMT by thooms
1991 Saab 900S Aero
1992 Fiat Panda 1000CLX
1981 Fiat 238 / Laika MP6
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Dec 25, 2013 11:44:45 GMT
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Head gasket is considered a consumable service item on these,and at 190k if it hasn't been changed it soon will.
Be a good idea to get the sump off and give it a damn good clean out too
These engines seem to like sludging up and blocking the oil pump pickup.....
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mull
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Dec 25, 2013 11:53:12 GMT
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Head gasket is considered a consumable service item on these,and at 190k if it hasn't been changed it soon will. Be a good idea to get the sump off and give it a damn good clean out too These engines seem to like sludging up and blocking the oil pump pickup..... Don't think the 9000s sludge, it was the early echo power engines in the next gen 900 and 95. The 2.3 in the 9000 should be ok. |
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Dec 25, 2013 16:25:40 GMT
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Had a 9000 3.0 V6 Griffin about five years ago and it was brilliant. Loved the car and would have another at the drop of a hat. One problem/weak spot in my opinion was the engine. The 3 litre is a GM engine (found in Calibras IIRC) and that was the only thing that went on the car. Ended up spending a small fortune on trying to sort it. Ended up being stripped and scrapped  Will have a proper engined one in the future.  |
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Dec 25, 2013 18:59:47 GMT
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A friend of mine has recently bought a 9000. So far, issues have been the heater seeming to blow a thermal fuse, some foam getting in through the heater vents, a scabby door bottom and the actuator rod needing to be reconnected. Other than those niggles it appears to be a very well screwed together, very fast and very comfy machine. They certainly seem to fall into the 'lot of car for not a lot of money' category.
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toe
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Dec 25, 2013 23:04:12 GMT
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They don't suffer with the sludging like 9-5's do, stronger engine too so no need to look in the sump. As like all cars they need to be looked after but main points have been raised, rust is the biggest thing now. For what they can do performance wise and the space/comfort they provide you'd be fortunate to find another car from another manufacturer of similar age to match a 9000, specially an Aero. Not so sure on the classic insurance, no doubt it will reach classic status but I reckon it won't be a while yet, seen it will or has just come out one of the classic car mags has a buying guide, keep a look out for it  On the whole go for it, fuel consumption not too bad, pretty good for what they are in fact, remember Saab were masters of turbo charging and that meant efficiency as well as performance Quick edit: Another guide here: www.saab9000.com/information/buying/buying.html |
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Last Edit: Dec 25, 2013 23:10:00 GMT by toe
1990 Daihatsu Charade GTti,
1992 Saab 900 T16s
1998 Mazda 323f ZXi
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Head gasket is considered a consumable service item on these,and at 190k if it hasn't been changed it soon will. Be a good idea to get the sump off and give it a damn good clean out too These engines seem to like sludging up and blocking the oil pump pickup..... Ah 95 not 9.5, agree 9.5 sludge shocking with their "GM" improvements, pick ups but you also need to cheek the breather, 9000 are really solid motors Niggling electrics but most are home handy man, cleaning contacts and the like |
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Contrary to popular opinion, I do have mechanical sympathy, I always feel sorry for the cars I drive.
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As a seasoned 9000 owner (I'm on my 3rd) I can assure you they are fabulous cars. Well built, fast (and easily remapped - see Uksaabs for more details), massively practical and stupidly cheap. My current 9K is a 1996 Aero (Abbott stg 1) I got it at 197,000 and 3 and hlaf yrs later it is at 220,000 and still going strong. Any more questions just ask! Here is my 9000 Aero   No worries about sludge - that is only on the T7 engines found in the 9-5 & 9-3 ('98-'02) - all petrol Saabs after this are mechanically bullet proof. |
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Will have a proper engined one in the future.
