Waaaaayyy of .... Bikes learner license?

At 17 she will have to do a CBT, this will then allow her to ride a machine up to 125cc on L plates,she can't carry pillions. The CBT is only valid for 2 years. I would recommend everyone did one and rode a bike,as it WILL make you a better car driver.
More info here on the DSA site- www.dsa.gov.uk/Bikes.asp

I'm a CBT instructor, and mitch and phatphord are right. At 17 (or 16 for that matter), she needs to do a CBT, which entitles her to run up to a 125cc bike, with no more than 14.6bhp (or up to a 50cc bike/scooter, restricted to 3bhp and 32mph). All she needs is a provisional license.

If you pass your CBT at 16 and are restricted to a 50cc bike, as soon as you turn 17, the CBT grows with you, and you don't need to retake it to enable you to ride the larger bikes. Similarly, if you take your CBT on a 'rev and go' automatic bike, then you can also ride a geared bike.

The stipulations are that once you have gained the CBT certificate (NB: It's not a test, it's a certificate that says you are at a standard where you are not unsafe on the roads on your own), you MUST display full-sized L plates front and rear (3 points and £60 fine EACH if you're caught not displaying them!!), you can't take passengers, you can't go on motorways and you're not allowed to tow trailers (odd but true!).

There are good places and bad places, a good place should have you arriving at 9am and finishing the day at about 4 to 4:30. I work at a good place, where we teach more than the basics, we try to give as much 'real world' advice, as we wouldn't want our own kids going out there unprepared.... You spend some time in the classroom, some time riding on private land, and then a MINIMUM of 2 hours on-road. No more than 2 riders per instructor when on-road, no more than 4 riders per instructor in the yard).

Not everyone achieves the standard within the one day at our place, 'cos as I said earlier, if we wouldn't send our own kids out on their own at the standard the learner is at, then we don't give them the certificate, simple as that! If that's the case, we identify what they need in order to become safe, note it down on their file and invite them back for however long we think they'll need. Whether it be an hour on-road, or half a day in the yard followed by going on the road.

Feel free to ask any more questions!

Cheers, Martin

I wonder if it will need to get any harder to get on the road, as theres a lot of wobbly moped/scooter lads either shakey or attempting tailgaiting, weaving, or endo's out there! not knocking guys getting out there, just seen a few near misses...

What's wrong with endos reanimation? (Or stoppies as they are called in the motorcycle world ).

Trouble is, some kids are just plain stupid - we can only show them the correct way to ride, as long as they show us that they can do it on-road for a couple of hours, it's up to them if they want to continue that way or not.

Needless to say they wouldn't pass a full test, or even get a CBT certificate riding badly/dangerously, and if they choose to ride like that, they will ultimately end up injured or dead. Good stuff says I, get the eejits out of the gene pool!

Same with anything that needs a license, you can only hope that most people follow the rules of the road, there will be some car drivers/truckers/bus drivers etc. that drive like tw@s - fingers crossed they wipe themselves out before anyone else!!

FWIW, when the CBT was introduced, it cut down motorcycle related deaths and injuries by a huge factor (over 60% IIRC), so it does work....

Damnit I knew I should have come in on two wheels today. Maybe tomorrow.

Speaking of which my CBT is up soon, I'd better check...

Its def worth doing, I used to instruct, was the youngest fully qualified instructor in the Uk (think it still stands) as I was 21 when I became fully qualified. Used to really enjoy CBT's, and like blade says, people will be people,its the same as kids doing handbrake turns, wheelspins etc...

PS, I cannot wheely, do stoppies, etc, but I can ride fast, safely and consistently, with consideration.

Wish I could do the "" things stunt riders can ;D ;D ;D ;D

SCOOTER ANYONE ??



The 800cc BMW I built and then tought my girlfriends son to ride on

How long is a piece of string ?

I have a BMW1150 GS which is prolly worht about £4500, and then a 100cc Kawasaki worth about £300 plus, both could give trouble on any day, so I guess it depends on what you want to do etc.

Check out biketrader, or some of the for sale forums on bike sites.

LOVE VESPA's Grew up on them, never really knew Li's till I came here.
My last P150 X I re-MOT'd when I swapped my ex girlfriend for a 1959 VW Beetle, to be reg'd as a 125 as her son could only ride 125 cc at the time.
Yep, amazing what you can do when you draw someones attention away from what is going down on the license documents ;D