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Mar 17, 2013 20:36:50 GMT
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thinking of using either a bmw or merc diesel engine in the 2000, does anyone know if either has a rear bowl sump? i'm thinking the 5 cyl merc would fit best due to length but does depend on the sump.
cheers craig
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Last Edit: Mar 17, 2013 20:37:16 GMT by beefertoo
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Mar 17, 2013 21:27:17 GMT
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Merc has the main sump on the front and it's fully cast aluminium. BMW - don't know. Look at engine pics on eBay maybe?  Mind, the Merc engines sell with a premium... *sigh* HTH. |
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Mar 18, 2013 16:35:59 GMT
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As DW has said, the Merc is front sumped. The BMW is rear (I'm assuming you're referring to the 2.5 tds lump here). Don't know if the sump is still the same in Range Rovers and Omegas though.
I have a 250 Turbodiesel and a 525 tds, both in manual flavour, if you need and actual measurements - although there is precious little tape measure space in the bay of the 5!
Just drop me a PM if you need anything!
Cheers, Joe
edit; just thought - if you're on about a Merc CDi lump, they are rear sumped.
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Last Edit: Mar 18, 2013 16:38:49 GMT by Deleted
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rodney
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Mar 18, 2013 17:00:24 GMT
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i also have a 2.5 bmw td lump , for my e30 project , youll have to run fly by wire throttle so best doing as i did and buy a doner car, you can also get a 40 quid chip for the ecu that livens it up a bit,.
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Mar 18, 2013 19:37:19 GMT
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hmmm,a rock and a hard place then.merc to mess with the sump or bmw to mess with wires. does the bmw have immobilisers etc (i'm looking at a '92 325 tds on ebay)? . i'm going to be buying a donor car so to get all the relevent bits.
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Mar 18, 2013 20:16:37 GMT
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how about a VW 2.5 5 pot?
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mat91
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Mar 18, 2013 20:23:54 GMT
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I won't bother with a m51 (bmw 2.5) if you can run either a om606 or om605 with a manual pump, much stronger engine and very very powerfulll but then I'm bias my current project e30 + 606  |
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The stupid is everywhere |
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Mar 18, 2013 20:33:07 GMT
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does the 605/606 come with a manual pump as standard?
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Mar 18, 2013 20:37:57 GMT
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how about a VW 2.5 5 pot? open to other suggestions really, i fancy running a merc for a few months as well before doing the swap as i've never owned one. but if the engine plain wont fit its not worth buying one just for the sake of it. the engine needs to be rwd,mechanical pump or simple to wire up and prefer not a 4cyl. (just seems wrong fitting a 4 pot instead of a 6.....) craig |
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sowen
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Mar 18, 2013 21:09:54 GMT
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I've got a Merc OM605 sitting on my garage floor right now that I could take some measurements for you, now running with a mechanical pump.
The earlier single cam variants are the OM602 and OM603, which come with mechanical pump as standard. The mechanical pumps are a direct swap onto the electronically controlled twin cam OM605 and OM606 engines, but don't flow as much fuel as standard without modifications.
Another engine to look at is the VW/Audi/Volvo 2.5 inline 5 cylinder lump. From what I'm told they are a development of the Audi inline 5 petrol lump, though I can't find much information or pictures of the sump and oil pump location, but I suspect they are front bowl. I think they also run a Bosch rotary pump off the back of the cylinder head.
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mat91
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Mar 18, 2013 21:14:48 GMT
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What you want is a 606 plus 603 manual injection pump no wires just either a vaucum stop (standard) or what I'm doing running a cable to the stop lever ubber simple
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The stupid is everywhere
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Mar 18, 2013 21:26:45 GMT
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Mat91: love your e30 + 606 combo.
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mat91
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Mar 18, 2013 21:31:46 GMT
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Would it get better if I said it was a vert as well sorry hijack
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The stupid is everywhere
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Mind, the Merc engines sell with a premium... *sigh* 
