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composimmonite Posted a lot Posts: 4,681	Slow turning starter composimmonite @composimmonite
	Feb 2, 2013 17:05:42 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Right this is my Mahindra which has a 2.1 Peugeot diesel the same as 504, Granada etc. Genuine sub 70,000 miles. It has been standing, in a garage, for 7 years prior to my buying. Seller said it was driven in there with MOT and simply parked up as he was working away from home. No battery so the new, fully charged, item taken off my 2.0 HDi Peugeot van. Starter turned over very slowly and not fast enough to fire. If put in 1st gear and low range still not enough power to move it about on the flat. Starter removed, stripped down, no fault found so rebuilt but no improvement. Recon starter sourced and fitted today - still the same ie only turns over very slowly. Jump leads from battery to starter for both live and earth thus eliminating vehicle wiring. Same with live to energise solenoid. I am flummoxed. As far as I can see all electrical options tried - original & reconditioned starters, new battery and bypassed wiring so it must be something else. Tomorrow I intend removing glow plugs to see if that helps it turn over faster. Any other suggestions ? Thanks. Paul H


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craig1010cc Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,993 Club RR Member Number: 35	Slow turning starter craig1010cc @craig1010cc Club Retro Rides Member 35
	Feb 2, 2013 17:39:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	have you tried to start it with the clutch down? Help remove any drag from the gearbox And have you changed the oil, could be like old tar by now


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jonnyboyws6 Part of things Posts: 46	Slow turning starter jonnyboyws6 @jonnyboyws6
	Feb 2, 2013 20:25:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Does the engine turn freely by hand if you put a ratchet on the bottom pulley bolt?


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optimusprime Posted a lot Posts: 1,475	Slow turning starter optimusprime @optimusprime
	Feb 2, 2013 21:05:50 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If not electrical, then its gotta be mechanical ? Deffo try dipping the clutch,and removing glow plugs. But before you fire her up check on the condition of the oil ... and more importantly, make sure its got some!!


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composimmonite Posted a lot Posts: 4,681	Slow turning starter composimmonite @composimmonite
	Feb 2, 2013 21:13:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Feb 2, 2013 20:25:33 GMT jonnyboyws6 said: Does the engine turn freely by hand if you put a ratchet on the bottom pulley bolt? Going to try that tomorrow both before, and after, removing glow plugs. The starter does turn it over but painfully slow as if the battery is totally flat so just manages one or two revolutions. The original starter was just the same. Battery is on charge overnight and will try a second battery in series with jump leads "just in case". First time I've had the energy (been ill for weeks - again / normal) to play and hoped swopping the starter would cure the problem so I'm very dissappointed that it's still there. Paul H


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bortaf Posted a lot Posts: 4,549	Slow turning starter bortaf @bortaf
	Feb 3, 2013 16:08:42 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	i had a 2.5 pug lump in my LDV400, that allways took 2 batterys to spin it fast enough and if left for a week a jump at the same time! thats was with 2 new batterys and a starter, was a pig to start for all the 5 years i owned it Is the cold start on the diesel pump working? on mine the cable seized and when i set it manually it started way earlyer and at lower cranking revs? mind out cos it resets as soon as you touch the throttle, never did sort the slow turn over though, ended up with 3 batterys and doubled up earth wires and new lives. Had quite a few slow turning diesels in that i've had to put aa blow heater on the sump to get them to start just so i could change the oil ! more like tar than oil.
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composimmonite Posted a lot Posts: 4,681	Slow turning starter composimmonite @composimmonite
	Feb 3, 2013 19:19:10 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Not felt well enough to have a decent look earlier today but just nipped outside and tried a spanner on bottom pulley nut. Turns over easily by hand. Maybe a little too easily as couldn't feel compression I'm starting to think the recon starter might be duff - that's the kind of luck I have. Sods law says the starter is unique to the Mahindra as a Kia small truck gearbox used which has it on the right hand side. Every other installation of the 2.1, 2.3 & 2.5 versions of the Peugeot diesel have it on the left. Of course there is probably something that will fit but can't find an on-line application guide that lists the Mahindra to cross reference. The starter is a Lucas India item ! Also the exhaust downpipe is right behind the starter so it also has to be a shorter than normal motor body. Paul h
	Last Edit: Feb 3, 2013 19:26:43 GMT by composimmonite

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