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Exasperant Part of things Posts: 26	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?Exasperant @rottingheaps
	Jan 29, 2013 1:06:27 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi.. New here, though some may recognise me from one or two other places (that sounds rather egotistical, now I look at it..) I seem to have bought an auto Allegro and the box is.. Not so good. Not completely dead, but it flares quite badly between 2nd and 3rd, changes are a little harsh, and worst of all it makes a squeely squwark graunch when pulling away when fully warmed up. My guess is brake bands, forward clutch pack, no doubt several seals, and god knows what else are to blame, and as I a) don't touch gearbox, and b) don't have the tools to split an A series auto engine and box, I'm pondering. I've got a reasonable manual 1275 sat as a "one day I'll rebuild it nicely for my GTa", and somewhere else I think I have a pedalbox out a manual Dolomite. The brake servo on the Allegro looks to have the same mountings as a Dolly one, so I'm wondering if I could go manual with the spare lump, using Dolomite pedals and a suitable bulkhead mounted master? I'd rather just drop another 1275 auto lump in, but never seem to spot one sensibly priced and local enough... Also, got a very nasty sounding n/s outer CV, does anyone know if they're the same as Metro ones (as I have an unused spare somewhere around..)? And.. Trying not to sound too stupid, but how do the rear seats work? I mean.. The cushion half.. On mine it spits anyone daft enough to sit there into the footwell, and I can't see how it's meant to not deform, collapse, and generally be unseatish..


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djefk Part of things Posts: 844	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?djefk @djefk
	Jan 29, 2013 13:55:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sounds like a blinding purchase all round mate!! Welcome to Retro Rides!!
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Exasperant Part of things Posts: 26	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?Exasperant @rottingheaps
	Jan 29, 2013 18:02:51 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Did I mention when I bought it it had gone through summer parked up with some (un)frozen fish fillets in the boot? There's a reason it's known as the toxic lemon. But it's rare, and actually not bad given the obvious neglect of the previous owner. I just wish I could sort the gearbox issues out. Though that's only really a problem on a run.. I ought to get the wheel bearing (front) done one of these days, it's far from happy sounding.


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customsinc Part of things Posts: 337	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?customsinc @customsinc
	Jan 29, 2013 19:45:45 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Very unlikely the outer joints are the same as Metro, but the metro owners club (google it) may be a good source of a good 1275 auto motor at a reasonable price.


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Exasperant Part of things Posts: 26	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?Exasperant @rottingheaps
	Jan 30, 2013 1:12:10 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Been a while since I last posted on the owners club - I sort of fell of the face of the earth for a few months, due to one thing and another. The engine in my GTa came from someone on there, nice guy, very into his BL stuff. Have got a lead on an engine and box not too far away, but it's of similar vintage and with no certainty it's fully working. And a Metro one would give me the later, slightly better, internals.. And park (if I could get the selector too.. In fact, I don't know if late boxes work with early selectors..). Oh, the luxury! Going manual still seems like an option, even if it does mean putting in an engine that's worth more than the rest of the car... The CV joints - I can't seem to find if the 1500 and 1750 are the same, but I did see a post on a Mini forum saying something about using Allegro (or maybe Maxi) outers for more strength. Perhaps I need to test out the local factors cross referencing skills..


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barty Posted a lot Posts: 1,088	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?barty @barty
	Jan 30, 2013 16:57:27 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	try changing the oil, might be a cheap fix and if not it aint cost you much


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craig1010cc Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,993 Club RR Member Number: 35	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?craig1010cc @craig1010cc Club Retro Rides Member 35
	Jan 30, 2013 17:28:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Don't know about allegros, but based on minis converted they need the spacer plates on the engine mounts. Your also going to need to find a manual gear linkage and they have an wire that needs bypassing that stops you starting it if its not in park. On the CV, the 1750 ones are used on minis as heavy duty ones (espec when doing vaux conversions ect), and a mini one will fit a metro hub. Don't know if that actually helps answer your question or not If you want to stay auto, I would stick a wanted up on theminiforum and perhaps sent R1minimagic a PM as he breaks later minis and could well have a 1275 auto lurking


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Exasperant Part of things Posts: 26	Allegro 1275 Auto to Manual.. How Easy?Exasperant @rottingheaps
	Jan 31, 2013 0:23:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jan 30, 2013 16:57:27 GMT barty said: try changing the oil, might be a cheap fix and if not it aint cost you much Did oil and filter - And brake band adjust, shortly after getting it.. No improvement (well, slight, but not on the graunchy hell or flaring between 2 and 3 ) Jan 30, 2013 17:28:59 GMT craig1010cc said: Don't know about allegros, but based on minis converted they need the spacer plates on the engine mounts. I bought a manual Allegro 1275 lump a couple of years ago for the Metro, came with the mounts so if they're different I should still have manual ones.. Somewhere.. Maybe..! Your also going to need to find a manual gear linkage and they have an wire that needs bypassing that stops you starting it if its not in park. Was hoping I could adapt a Metro linkage? Bypassing the inhibitor shouldn't be too tricky - Done it on the Triumph (when changing looms for a different year, I think, was a temp workaround). On the CV, the 1750 ones are used on minis as heavy duty ones (espec when doing vaux conversions ect), and a mini one will fit a metro hub. Don't know if that actually helps answer your question or not Ah ha! Handy to know.. So the splines should be OK, probably, so it's if the other dimensions are OK. Wheel bearings are the same as Metro, so.. Time to dig out the spare Metro one.. From wherever I buried it last year.. If you want to stay auto, I would stick a wanted up on theminiforum and perhaps sent R1minimagic a PM as he breaks later minis and could well have a 1275 auto lurking Staying auto is the easiest from many aspects, but only if I can source an actually good unit. In negotiation with someone in the next county over, for one out of an ADO16 I think. I might try to find my login for the Mini forum and stick a post up just in case, thanks :-)


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