rysz
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Jan 23, 2013 12:16:43 GMT
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My family wagon has a ridiculous amount of rear camber, so much that the tyres are wearing badly on the insides.
All of the bushes appear to be in good condition with no obvious movement when the car is jacked up and no nasty clunks coming from the rear end.
A quick google search threw up some us based sites stating that a lot of focii have this issue and its not considered too serious!
Does anyone have some experience with this issue and how to cheaply rectify it?
Many thanks for reading.
Rysz.
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Onne
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Jan 23, 2013 12:19:22 GMT
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Take the dead bodies out the back?
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1990 Mercedes W126 300SE 1997 Mercedes W140 S320L
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ChasR
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Jan 23, 2013 12:49:59 GMT
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IMO it will be down to the tracking being out on the back despite the camber. The biggest issue will be adjusting it out (the bolts tend to seize onto the sleeve of the bush).
FWIW my old Mondeo estate had a degree of excess negative camber on the rear (giving the rear wheels a total camber of -2.5o on each side. Aligning the rear solved it via competent person. Up until that moment, it killed the insides of the tyre despite the tyres having around 5mm across the middle!
Depending on who tracks the rear, they made track it incorrectly (if not already done so as it was in my case), if using a 2 wheel tracking system where the readouts are reversed (I.E on a Supertracker device, Toe Out (red portion) will become Toe In and vice versa), yet many will forget this.
FWIW, my Stag which is lowered is on -1.5 to -2o of camber on the rear, and I am fairly sure my old Focus had camber on the rear once lowered (40mm) did not kill the insides in double quick time (if anything, I can't remember changing the tyres on the rear of that car, despite covering almost 30,000 in it!).
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2013 13:18:55 GMT by ChasR
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rysz
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Jan 23, 2013 12:56:07 GMT
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Thanks y'all.
Onne, the bodies are already disposed of, the cold has been preserving them really well!
I will get the tracking checked this weekend!
Rysz.
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Jan 23, 2013 22:08:39 GMT
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There is a concentric bolt on the rear suspension for camber adjustment. Just had mine done at a 4 wheel alignment place. Wasn't cheap mind!
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ChasR
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Jan 23, 2013 23:26:24 GMT
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Eccentric bolt [/geek mode]. If the bolt has not seized into the bush, adjusting the tracking is not too tricky. If it has (and often does) you need to think about rebushing the inside of the arm (which generally entails a pair of new rear radius arms :S.
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CIH
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Ford's tolerances in these things is a complete joke. Rear camber is something like -1'30" but +/- 1'15" !! They're usually pretty good too. The opposite would be Alfa which have tight tolerances but are always look like they've been over a cliff.
You can get adjustable arms but they're usually in America and by the they've been bought, taxes paid, shipped, fitted and aligned you're into a lot of money. It takes alot of camber to do the rears, however.
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Jan 26, 2013 19:16:42 GMT
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As already suggested, it is probably a toe issue rather than a camber issue, assuming the eccentric bolts will still work, a 4 wheel computer alignment should sort it along with close monitoring of the tyre pressures!
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froggy
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Jan 27, 2013 15:33:14 GMT
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Normally the bonding on the blade arm front bush fails which can alter toe in .
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