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Dec 19, 2012 17:46:21 GMT
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Dec 19, 2012 23:38:30 GMT
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seen so many of these on the track its heart breaking
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cars: orion 1600 i ghia mk2 orion 2.2 vtec ghia mk1
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look at drvs frt wheel.only been working on them since 84 so what would I know, armchair experts allways know more.
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theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
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I love the estate, but it's always really bugged me how the rear rubbing strips don't line up with the rear bumper on the mk5! lol this is perfect in my eyes:
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Last Edit: Dec 21, 2012 9:42:03 GMT by sarkie83
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look at drvs frt wheel.only been working on them since 84 so what would I know, armchair experts allways know more. I haven't seen a single photo of a Cortina with excessive camber yet.
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1979 Chrysler Horizon 1.3 GL 1980 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia 1985 Ford Sierra 3dr 1985 Ford Escort Mk3 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire Cosworth 1989 Ford Escort 1.3 Popular 1995 Volvo 960 1996 BMW 525i 1998 BMW 323i 1999 BMW 530d 2003 BMW 530i . www.facebook.com/ABCARPIX
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bortaf
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Dec 21, 2012 13:18:03 GMT
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Having unequal length wishbones meen they go through a lot of camber change on roll, so even if it doesn't look too aggressive a camber setting when sitting it will be at every corner Craig is right they chew through front tyres at an alrming rate and the brakes are wibblepoo cos there so little tyre in contact with the road surface (front locking), ok not on par with the silly camber brigade but thats how it works on Mk3/4/5, that's why most in the know start with the pos camber Xmemeber from a Mk3 or redrill the later ones to the Mk3 specs and then lower more than 2 inches. As i said it's not as noticable as some but it's there and once you know it it makes sense to pass that info on? the thing is after so many years playing with these things function tends to take over from form (or is that a nice way of saying we're getting old) LOL
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R.I.P photobucket
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no, that theres more enjoyment in good handleing & driveability.
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theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
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Having unequal length wishbones meen they go through a lot of camber change on roll, so even if it doesn't look too aggressive a camber setting when sitting it will be at every corner Craig is right they chew through front tyres at an alrming rate and the brakes are wibblepoo cos there so little tyre in contact with the road surface (front locking), ok not on par with the silly camber brigade but thats how it works on Mk3/4/5, that's why most in the know start with the pos camber Xmemeber from a Mk3 or redrill the later ones to the Mk3 specs and then lower more than 2 inches. As I said it's not as noticable as some but it's there and once you know it it makes sense to pass that info on? the thing is after so many years playing with these things function tends to take over from form (or is that a nice way of saying we're getting old) LOL Interesting! In what way are the wishbones of unequal length? Also if the main problem is geometry changes during suspension movement surely this could be massively reduced when running much stiffer springs? Less movement away from the desired ideal setup.
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1979 Chrysler Horizon 1.3 GL 1980 Ford Granada 2.8 Ghia 1985 Ford Sierra 3dr 1985 Ford Escort Mk3 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire Cosworth 1989 Ford Escort 1.3 Popular 1995 Volvo 960 1996 BMW 525i 1998 BMW 323i 1999 BMW 530d 2003 BMW 530i . www.facebook.com/ABCARPIX
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Dec 25, 2012 11:00:20 GMT
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I had to jack the front of my mk5 back up again to make it steer and stop with the 24v in it because the someone before me had lowered it to much. I to have been playing with Cortinas for over 20 years, even with stiff springs on they still lean and dive under braking quite a lot. Seriously, unless you have tried to hustle one of these through the bends or had to do an emergency stop you don't know how bad they can be, engineered to be safe for mr average they are seriously handicapped when it comes to enthusiastic driving. :S Mine was fully polybushed and had new gas shocks, new springs, a 2" lowering job and no rot to weaken the shell and it was STILL wobbly at speed in anything other than a straight line. Before, After,
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Dec 25, 2012 11:09:10 GMT
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Anybody good at photoshop fancy doing my a shop of an idea I got? Simply want it Matt black with some white wellers and yellow headlight covers and lowered of course Thats gonna look rubbish man, its far more eye-catching as it is now!!! Why ruin it?
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Dec 25, 2012 22:01:57 GMT
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Gone off the Matt black, camo green instead, like the diesel viva estate in the readers rides
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Nobody dies a virgin, because lifes curse word us ALL
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Dec 26, 2012 11:35:27 GMT
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Its far more eye-catching as it is now!!! Why ruin it? x2 Beige, low, styled steel wheels or old style alloys, orange pinstripes (also on wheels?).
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Camo greens cack too, keep it beige FTW.
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This is mine, sorry very standard [/IMG][/quote] Lovely car mate
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shlomping
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show me: mk5 cortina estates?shlomping
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Is there any kits available to make the front suspension more adjustable. Rose Jointed Wishbones etc? Or are any of the Kit Car front suspension set ups that are cortina based useable?
A lot of them seem to use tubular wishbones. I suppose an engineering firm with decent suspension knowledge might be able to knock something up?
Would be good to be able to run the Cortina low on adjustable coilovers and still be able to get the geometry right. After all double wishbone setup can be a very good one.
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Last Edit: Dec 27, 2012 8:22:00 GMT by shlomping
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Dec 27, 2012 11:23:28 GMT
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Its not designed for performance use, especially once all the bushes go soggy! The cross member it all hangs on is mounted on fairly soft rubbers even when new. It wouldn't be hard to make a new system and you can buy custom x members to hang real suspension off, not cheap though and the demand has never been massive.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Dec 27, 2012 11:35:09 GMT
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this car was in a local garden center and the owner was on santa duty lol
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Last Edit: Dec 27, 2012 11:36:56 GMT by stretch
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Dec 27, 2012 12:41:11 GMT
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Theres a lad on here that is/has converted a red mk3 to coilovers on the front, you'll have to go rooting around for the thread, but it's worth it he's made a very nice job of it.
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bortaf
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Dec 27, 2012 13:11:54 GMT
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Interesting! In what way are the wishbones of unequal length? Also if the main problem is geometry changes during suspension movement surely this could be massively reduced when running much stiffer springs? Less movement away from the desired ideal setup. The upper wishbone is shorter than the lower meaning the upper ball joints travell through a smaller arc than the lower B/J as the susspension compresses, thus pulling the top B/J in and cambering the wheel, great when the suspension is at it's normal height as the camber leaves more tyre in contact with the road as you corner and the outer wheel compresses but lower it too far and it's camberd all the time which when in a straight means less tyre on the road, less grip less stabilty ect. Coilovers solve nothing, they are intended to equall the cars weight over the 4 contact patches, people go on like they are the be all and end all of suspension mods and to allow correct weight distribution over all 4 wheels the are, as a secondary use they can allow lower suspension whilst still having some suspension travel. On the cortina they need some seriouse strengthening of the upper and (especialy) lower shock mounts, then all they do is the same job as the origional set up, suspension travel is no better, as it's limited by the upper arm and not internaly like a normal strut and they pivot in the same way the origional shock did although they do allow the spring to compress in a straight line unlike the standard springs that straighten as the lower wishbone comes up and sit bent at rest. There are a few custom shops out there do really trick double wishbone set ups but they cost, the cortina was never ment to be a sports car that's why ford never really tried, a few standard Mks3s for a celebraty race series and 2 Mk5s fiddled with by Boreham and Koln and they both gave up and gave them to private race engeneers who stuggled for months to get a fair handling car (as a side not neither of the very experianced private engeneers used coil overs on the front ) IME cortinas handle best with a 1ish inch lowering and much thicker ARBs but even that has side affects, add say a 20mm front ARB (hyundai stellar) and the rear end becomes much more snappy in oversteer cos lets face it the rear end is a compromise and compaired to the front it's curse word, you sort the front then the rear really needs looking at with parralel top arms and a panrad rod (ala SA cortinas). The front ARB could do with rose joins top and bottom and the link arm from the xmember to the bottom arm really needs a decent connection sorting. Oh and as popup implys never undeestimate the power of a weak bush sorry anorac off
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Last Edit: Dec 27, 2012 13:20:07 GMT by bortaf
R.I.P photobucket
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Dec 27, 2012 13:31:47 GMT
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Bortaf's (from this very forum) old Mk5 cortina estate 2.3 Ghia S estate. Apparently was the last one known to the club and had been in ashes to ashes and Michael Caine film "is there anybody there?" Still on the road according to DooVLA, which can only be a good thing. nice to see these pics of 'BEV' i've just purchased it! put a 2 litre pinto in yours with some 4 spoke mk1 escort rs 2000 alloys with a one inch drop,gl/ghia steering wheel,rev counter and centre console out of a ghia and if you could get ya hands on some of those fab fishnet recaro seats out of a gls,that would be nice!!!! and don't forget to sort them dammed bushes out either! ;D
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