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Nov 17, 2012 16:27:27 GMT
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Almost! Q plated cars get tested as though they were manufactured on 01/01/1971 except emissions, which are tested to 1975 levels.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Copey
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Nov 17, 2012 19:22:37 GMT
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so what are the road tax laws on a Q plate then?
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Nov 17, 2012 20:17:38 GMT
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That's a good question Copey...I had to think about that one. Q is essentially "of indeterminate age or origin". My experience of kitcars is pre-SVA, but at MoT they often didn't get emissions tested. But, if I sense correctly  (and I apologise if I'm wrong) , you're sniffing for tax-exemption, I think you'd have to prove the car is pre-'73, not just "might be pre-'73". Again my kitcar experience was some time ago, so for road fund license only fell into the under/over 1250cc classes. |
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Copey
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Nov 17, 2012 20:25:39 GMT
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just thinkin about my mk1 Capri, i want to do major chassie/runnin gear mods which may mean it needs to go on a Q plate...but don't want to loose its taz exemption, guess if its bassed arround a pre-73 motor it should stay tax free?
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stealthstylz
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Nov 17, 2012 20:52:55 GMT
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Modified chassis means the car will need a BIVA test and re registering to remain legal, so will get a Q plate and be registered as new. Emissions and Tax based on old system IIRC.
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Nov 17, 2012 21:09:56 GMT
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So does that mean my Kadett is going to lose its number and have to go on a Q and have a load of stuff done to meet IVA like switchgear etc rather than just keeping the period interior ?
I don't get it ?
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stealthstylz
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Nov 17, 2012 22:02:08 GMT
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For a vehicle to legally maintain its original registration it must meet the 8 points rule. This 8 points MUST include 5 points for the original UNMODIFIED chassis or monocoque, along with a couple of other original pieces (axle and suspension or whatever).
So yes Dom legally your Kadett would need a BIVA test as it has been cut for the four link boxes etc, baring in mind that any 60s/70s Ford that's 4 linked would need the same.
They're not picking up on it in massive numbers yet, but they're getting better at detecting it. There have been a number of cars that have been called in for inspection when they've changed hands, or been taxed for the first time in years.
There are still thousands of cars getting away with it. Even if you risk it and don't BIVA it you're probably better off having a read of the test manual and building it to meet the more difficult standards, just incase the curse word hits the fan in future.
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Copey
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Nov 17, 2012 22:58:31 GMT
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sound advice that stealthstylz!
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one proplem that nobodys mentioned is that if you have a q plate you can only get third party insurance.
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one proplem that nobodys mentioned is that if you have a q plate you can only get third party insurance. No you can't-not in my experience. |
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one proplem that nobodys mentioned is that if you have a q plate you can only get third party insurance. No probs getting fully comp on my Q plated bikes, only time i've come across the 3rd party on bit was one particular insurance company when the vehicle had been Q'd as it had been run as a ringer. |
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Nov 18, 2012 10:31:17 GMT
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 Quality. Yes, that's what it means. It gets my 'Q'uote  |
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Nov 18, 2012 10:50:05 GMT
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I keep forgetting (intentionally) how tiny yours is slot. OH YEAH - beware lowering. Mine grounds getting on/off my driveway now and I had to have the centre box replaced with a bit of straight pipe to get on at all! :oops: May as well post a pic of my own car, even though it's already on here. Q IS for quality.  121003-IMAG0077 by Tony Lloyd, on Flickr |
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Nov 18, 2012 11:33:24 GMT
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One problem that nobody's mentioned is that if you have a Q plate you can only get third party insurance. My insurers gave me fully comp on my Rickman without even being asked. |
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Nov 18, 2012 11:43:55 GMT
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Yeah, mine's fully comp.
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Nov 18, 2012 13:32:56 GMT
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Most Q plate cars would go on specialist insurance anyway and that's almost always so cheap you'd be daft not to have fully comp even if they offered third party.
My old V8 powered RV eagle cost a quarter what the Volvo costs to insure despite being way more dangerous, far easier to steal and worth about the same amount.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Nov 18, 2012 16:54:45 GMT
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Ditto. My kitcars were insured Fully Comp no problem.
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Nov 27, 2012 11:17:04 GMT
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I never noticed that was on a Q - did it go through an BIVA test?
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Nov 27, 2012 11:28:15 GMT
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(and I apologise if I'm wrong) , you're sniffing for tax-exemption, I think you'd have to prove the car is pre-'73, not just "might be pre-'73".
