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Sept 19, 2012 18:11:20 GMT
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just replacing the outer cv's on my corsa and those damn annoying clips that come with the kits i cannot get along with them plus i need to get some fancy tool to crimp them in
i heard that i can use jubilee clips , will this be ok for the mot which is due in february(which will be in the snow and have no intention of crawling to change clips)
and have heard rumors of these putting the driveshafts out of balance?!
is any of that true can any of you guys speak from first hand experience of using these?
cheers gav
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bortaf
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Sept 19, 2012 18:22:36 GMT
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Easy (ish) to do, fit the hook in the tightest slot then tap flat with a small hammer before crimping the bit that sticks up with some pincers, you may need 2 tubes over the pincer handles to give extra leveradge
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Sept 19, 2012 18:30:55 GMT
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but i cant do it tight enough bortaf and even if its close it slips off when you move it in a typical movement a cv does
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Sept 19, 2012 18:49:10 GMT
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`state
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Sept 19, 2012 18:51:38 GMT
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Cable ties. Always done all my cv boots with them with no problem.
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stealthstylz
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Sept 19, 2012 18:51:43 GMT
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Jubilee clips usally don't fit they catch the bottom of the strut.
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Dez
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Sept 19, 2012 18:57:08 GMT
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i also use a pair of slightly blunted pincers. you need ot man up gav, its easy to get em tight enough as matt says, jubilees often catch, so if youre too much of a wuss to get the crimp clips tight enough, just use some bug wide zipties, 8mm ones or so. i don't like the stainless ones, i find they don't pull tight enough no matter what you do with em.
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Sept 19, 2012 19:02:42 GMT
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cheers for replies guys- by getting it tight enough i mean the bit where it latches into th square holes even or will this be even more so tightened when i crimp them in? sorry for this my first cv change went so well apart from this haha much prefer rwd haha dez i had my weetabix this morning an all! i will have another go tomorrow and hopefully remember to update my project thread!
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Sept 19, 2012 19:10:36 GMT
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On every car I've changed CV joints on - I've used normal plastic cable ties. Never got so much as an advisory, or even a vague mention at the MOT.
As long as the Gaiters are secure, you could even just wrap some copper wire around them, and twist to lock it off. The method doesn't matter (well... too much) just the end result
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Sept 19, 2012 19:30:29 GMT
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will re try these clips tomorrow kinda want it done how its meant to be for peace of mind
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bl1300
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Sept 19, 2012 19:43:25 GMT
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zipties do the job fine. But ive got the special tool that makes those clips a breeze to use.
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bortaf
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Sept 19, 2012 20:48:35 GMT
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Cable ties do fine on most gators if the are decent ones that you can pull tight without snapping but a lot of later motors use plastic gators and they need the clamping force that a steel crimp type provides or they pull off when the steering is turned (outer CVs obv), mainly renaults it seems ?
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ChasR
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Sept 19, 2012 22:07:42 GMT
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With Zip ties (with either me or my mates practically hanging off the end of the zip tie) I have never been able to get them on tight enough onto the CV boot, they always slip off, same story with the stainless zip ties. This was on an outer CV joint mind you (or at least on a Focus 1.6, Peugeot 106 1.1 and the 205 GTi in my signature). For the inner boots I admit that zip ties have done the job fine (the spline gaitors on the Stag have been held on like this with zero grease leakage, as did the inner CV on an old Escort . The universal CV clips I found work a charm but as said a fancy tool does help wonders. I have been told that blunt cutters can be used to tension the clips up as can a hammer and flat bladed screwdriver. TBH the tool is not even that much, especially if you know someone with a Halfords trade card (I have used my tool on several other things (set length clips on modern car airboxes/throttle bodies for example which allows me to reuse the clips) . Jubilee clips would work if they did not catch the strut (or at least in my case).
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Last Edit: Sept 19, 2012 22:09:39 GMT by ChasR
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Sept 20, 2012 10:23:24 GMT
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You need to ensure no grease on the inside or the boot or contact area on the joint otherwise it will tend to move around and gives the impression that cable ties aren't good enough. When clean they are more than good enough.
Paul h
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Sept 20, 2012 15:27:09 GMT
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I always use sidecutters that have a sharpish edge. Use them at 90ยบ to the clip & they'll be solid as a rock.
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Todos con Lorca
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Sept 21, 2012 16:35:56 GMT
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sorted clened the mating surfaces got the special tool on halfords trade happy bunny now time to swap the shaft over tomorrow along with a load of other jobs!
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