tigran
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Pinto Turbo gen.tigran
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Nov 27, 2006 22:48:28 GMT
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Can anyone give me any info on how to go about sorting a turbo manifold? Is the only option to go down the custom route or is there any way to modify a tubular manifold to fit. Any gen on the basics would be awesome or if anyone knows of any links to info. Now the head's put together pondering what to do next for more power, thought about an over bore but thinking a turbo would be more effective and cost the same.
Also I know the whole issue of running a turbo on carbs came up a while back - what was the outcome of that ideas wise?
Thanks for any gen.
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Nov 27, 2006 23:05:01 GMT
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twin 45's  is there not turbo kits around? they had them turbo'd in the states on 2.3 engines |
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tigran
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Pinto Turbo gen.tigran
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Nov 27, 2006 23:12:31 GMT
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I dunno i've not dug around enough. I was kind of thinking of a scrap yard build tbh.
It would have to be one helluva engine to make 170-180bhp on N/A with twin 45's.
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Nov 27, 2006 23:16:07 GMT
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turbo technics charged through a couple of different down draught twin choke OE webers on cvhs without any mods, (DTML?)one of these might just bolt onto you inlet manifold!
whats the stock manifold like? is it possible to make an adapter?
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tigran
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Pinto Turbo gen.tigran
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Nov 27, 2006 23:17:13 GMT
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The stock exhaust or inlet?
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Nov 27, 2006 23:18:50 GMT
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A home brew 170-180bhp is possible on 45`s with a pinto but does take a bit of thought and a decent RR session would help.
The easiest way to turbo would probably be getting an injection sierra engine and using the inlet plenum and injection system.
Used to be kits available for it. There was a bloke in my motorclub used to autotest one but he kept blowing headgaskets.
You used to be able to get turbo kits for the injection engines.
There also used to be Rouse sport kits for the DOHC I-4 engine that were around 204bhp I believe.
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Nov 27, 2006 23:22:57 GMT
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Do it! It would be fantastic, carb wise i would go for a metro turbo SU, with a needle and jet from the montego turbo engine. Manifold, i would get a flange and some mandrel bends and have a crack at making one, whats the space around the engine like? A T3 will be a perfect size, probably metty turbo again, or escort RSturbo. There are lots of guys doing this conversion on turbosport.co.uk, i would go start prowling  J |
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side draughts can be good with a blower, lotus proved it with the turbo esprit with dellorto's iirc. How ever in my experiance side draughts are much happier with static air.
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side draughts can be good with a blower, lotus proved it with the turbo esprit with dellorto's iirc. How ever in my experiance side draughts are much happier with static air. But its also pretty hard to get the box to seal with all your fuel lines and what not, unless you get some pukka DHLATs (?) from the lotus, which is some £500 for the pair! you can make them take boost but this too is pretty expensive. |
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The 2.3 Turbo "Pinto" in the US is a slightly different engine to our UK "Pinto" engines. I don't know if the manifodls etc are compatible, I did try to find this out a while back (guess why?  ) but found no info. What a lotof the home brew trubo systems I have seen do is take a tubular manifold, reverse fit it and weld on a flange for the turbo. This puts the turbo at the top front of the engine bay. |
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Oh and... keep an eye out for Pinto turbo kits from Janspeed, Broadspeed and Turbo Technics. They all did them. I could have bought a Pinto turbo setup for about £500 complete only a year or so back.
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the US engine is called a LIMA engine and is pphysically bigger so virtually nothing will fit our pinto.
by the time you've spent a thousand quid turboing this engine you might as well fit a Yb, its 200bhp standard and easy and chep to get up to 280bhp.
pinto turbos are possible, there are plenty out there, but for decent boost you need expensive uprated internals, and if you are not after lots of power there are other more pokey engines you could drop in.
unless you HAVE to stick with the pinto for class rules or something it will be cheaper to do it another way.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Pinto Turbo gen.Robinxr4i
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turbo technics did do a turbo conversion for the pinto but it was only based on the later 205 2.0 injection engine (think that TT quote around 170 bhp?), if you can find a sierra with one in you will be very, very lucky.
However a Cosworth YB would be easier to find, don't expect to find a YB with a wiring loom, all ancilleries in good order for less than £1500!
As for carb turbo conversion on a pinto it would have to be a home brewed jobby with lots of fabrication even if you found a TT manifold.
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Pinto Turbo gen.bazza2541
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Check out the last few issues of Practical Performance Car, they have been fabbing together a turbo BMW for scrap yard bits.
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Last Edit: Nov 28, 2006 9:51:29 GMT by Thrasher
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Interesting. I was fairly sure the factory turbo Mustang has the turbo on the exhaust side of the engine. Is it my imagintion or are the exhaust gasses going through the intercooler rather than the charge?
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tigran
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Pinto Turbo gen.tigran
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Nov 28, 2006 11:02:23 GMT
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However a Cosworth YB would be easier to find, don't expect to find a YB with a wiring loom, all ancilleries in good order for less than £1500! There are too many old fords just using a cosworth to get their kicks, wanna go down a slightly more obscure route. Thanks for all the info peeps, think I'll go harass the turbosport posse for more specifics. |
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1992 Micra K10
2001 BMW E46 316i
2002 BMW E46 330Ci
2013 BMW F31 320d
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tigran
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Pinto Turbo gen.tigran
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Nov 28, 2006 11:04:56 GMT
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p.s. would something like this be able to flow anywhere near enough air for a pinto? |
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1992 Micra K10
2001 BMW E46 316i
2002 BMW E46 330Ci
2013 BMW F31 320d
2018 BMW G31 530d
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Nov 28, 2006 11:48:50 GMT
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Its exactly the same carb put onto the monetgo turbo and thats a 2L, the carb is proven to over 230bhp on the metro and mabe more on the montego engine. If you are careful about how you spend your money you will be able to do it for much less than 1K, as for a cosworth conversion being cheaper, gotta be kidding right? J EDIT - I just realised that isnt actually a turbo carb either, its a stock NA one, cheeky monkey  |
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Last Edit: Nov 28, 2006 11:58:27 GMT by Blown_Imp
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