v1xz
Part of things
i'm retro
Posts: 661
|
|
May 16, 2012 19:29:20 GMT
|
|
1998 MK4 GTi 1.8 AGN non turbo
Or
1996 MK3 VR6 2.8
I had a BMW E38 and the power was amazing, slow but when it picked up it flew. The 125BHP 1.8 engine is very fuel efficient but the power just isn't there.
Do I bite my tongue and keep with fuel saving or ask the gentlemen to kindly do a swap??
Any thoughts???
|
| |
1998 Merc E240 1997 BMW 728i 1998 VW Passat 2000 Kangoo 1999 Transit LWB 1999 Matiz SE 2001 Clio 1998 Golf GTi 1996 Ford Luton.... Retired.... Want a Motorbike... Got one... Yamaha WR125X... Missed RR sooo much... 1983 Porsche 944 1997 Celica 2000 Clio 1993 MR2 1992 MR2T 1989 325i Touring
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 16, 2012 20:25:36 GMT
|
|
IIRC, the non-turbo GTI only has 115bhp and is a total wet lettuce! Have you considered the Golf V5? Red-badge version has 170bhp and fully-loaded interior. (Or do what I did - buy a Leon Cupra 20V T, and get a Golf GTI chassis with a 180bhp Audi TT engine for well under £2k)
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16, 2012 20:59:58 GMT
|
Probably better off with the 1.8t than the 1.8, the 1.8 is 115bhp and shouldnt wear the Gti badge. If the 1.8 is fast enough - get a tdi  |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16, 2012 21:02:57 GMT
|
|
Neither. Buy an Octavia RS instead. Far quicker, better value, and cheaper to run than the VR6.
|
| |
'03 Porsche 996 C2 3.6 - Sort of Retro
'84 Porsche 924 - Definitely Retro!
|
|
|
|
|
May 16, 2012 21:13:22 GMT
|
^^ Octavia vRS has the same Audi TT-spec 1.8T as the Leon Cupra.  |
| |
|
|
Seth
South East
MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
Posts: 15,517
|
|
May 16, 2012 21:22:26 GMT
|
|
I vote for a Mk1 with either engine.
|
| |
Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable. |
|
chevazon
Posted a lot
1939 Chevrolet 2 door coupe, `67 `Zon estate, `87 Ragtop Cavalier, 4 x 800 Drifters,(!) 1500 Drifter
Posts: 2,259
|
|
May 16, 2012 21:27:41 GMT
|
|
I vote for the oldest retro version.....
|
| |
|
|
|
|
Golf MK4 GTi or Golf MK3 VR6Robinxr4i
@robinxr4i
Club Retro Rides Member 143
|
May 16, 2012 21:56:07 GMT
|
IIRC, the non-turbo GTI only has 115bhp and is a total wet lettuce! In the mk4 Golf the 1.8 20v non turbo GTi is 125bhp, it's the 2.0 8v GTi that's has 115bhp either way avoid both. Both slow and thirsty, even the 150bhp 1.8 20v Turbo is hardly rapid (has plenty of tuning potential thou). IMO the best mk4 is a TDi one. At least the VR6 has the power to go with the thirst, plus it's one of the best sounding engines going. So the Mk3 for me! |
| |
Last Edit: May 16, 2012 21:57:06 GMT by Robinxr4i
Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
|
|
EmDee
Club Retro Rides Member
Committer of Autrocities.
Posts: 5,922
Club RR Member Number: 108
|
Golf MK4 GTi or Golf MK3 VR6EmDee
@emdee
Club Retro Rides Member 108
|
May 17, 2012 10:16:08 GMT
|
|
VR6 for the soundtrack, Leon Cupra for a fast practical modern daily.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 17, 2012 11:19:24 GMT
|
|
|
| |
|
|
v1xz
Part of things
i'm retro
Posts: 661
|
|
May 17, 2012 11:34:05 GMT
|
|
Thanks all!
The VR6 it is. I've offered him the swap it's just a waiting game to see if he wants it or not.
When speaking to him he wanted offers of around 2k. Very very optimistic, I saw a 3 door vr6 in black sell on eBay for £700.
So my offer stands at swaps with my car for his. I'd still temp him more with a little bit of cash ontop. Even though I don't want to.
POWER!!!!!
|
| |
1998 Merc E240 1997 BMW 728i 1998 VW Passat 2000 Kangoo 1999 Transit LWB 1999 Matiz SE 2001 Clio 1998 Golf GTi 1996 Ford Luton.... Retired.... Want a Motorbike... Got one... Yamaha WR125X... Missed RR sooo much... 1983 Porsche 944 1997 Celica 2000 Clio 1993 MR2 1992 MR2T 1989 325i Touring
|
|
|
|
|
May 17, 2012 18:10:31 GMT
|
|
Neither!! How can you go back to fwd after having a rwd car regardless of power?
But if I had to choose would be the VR6.
|
| |
1994 Mazda 323f 1.6i 16v GLX
|
|
v1xz
Part of things
i'm retro
Posts: 661
|
|
May 17, 2012 19:01:01 GMT
|
|
E38 I always wanted, an i had it so box ticked.
Now I want VR6!
Doesn't look like the guys interested :-(
|
| |
1998 Merc E240 1997 BMW 728i 1998 VW Passat 2000 Kangoo 1999 Transit LWB 1999 Matiz SE 2001 Clio 1998 Golf GTi 1996 Ford Luton.... Retired.... Want a Motorbike... Got one... Yamaha WR125X... Missed RR sooo much... 1983 Porsche 944 1997 Celica 2000 Clio 1993 MR2 1992 MR2T 1989 325i Touring
|
|
Ian
Part of things
Posts: 977
|
|
May 17, 2012 22:34:13 GMT
|
|
I've had both, well I have had two Leon Cupras and one VR6
VR6 everyday of the week! They hide rust well though. Floors, wheel arches, inner wheel arches, everywhere!
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
May 18, 2012 11:23:28 GMT
|
|
my dad had a mk4 gt tdi, quicker than the gti and got 50-55 to the gallon. pulled like a train. not the most exciting option though.
|
| |
|
|
kerrly
Part of things
Posts: 266
|
|
May 18, 2012 12:15:02 GMT
|
|
I don't think you can possibly begin to compare a mk4 non turbo or TDI to a VR6 as they are completely different animals and its far more than HP that separates them.
Out of the two, depending on the condition of the VR6, id much rather a later 96/97 VR6 with a Recaro or leather interior, air con and possibly Cimatronic. Then Id fit a decent panel filter and knock out the centre silencer ;-)
But in an ideal world id have my VR6 in the Corrado or a mk2 and if i had to get a mk4 id have a 4motion. The 20vt mk4 (anniversary aside) just don't cut it and are outclassed by the Octavia VRS and Leon Cupra/Toledo which offer far more kit & practicality.
dave
|
| |
|
|
RobinJI
Posted a lot
"Driven by the irony that only being shackled to the road could ever I be free"
Posts: 2,995
|
|
|
|
Neither!! How can you go back to fwd after having a rwd car regardless of power? Easily..... I'd go for the VR6 out of those by a long shot, it'd be a close call if the mk4 was a turbo, but a non turbo I'm not sure it's even a valid question. haha (For the record, a mk4 gt tdi is only quicker than the 1.8t gti if you own one and happen to be in a pub, there's not much in it, but the petrol is quicker.) |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
May 19, 2012 11:37:39 GMT
|
In the mk4 Golf the 1.8 20v non turbo GTi is 125bhp, it's the 2.0 8v GTi that's has 115bhp either way avoid both. Both slow and thirsty, even the 150bhp 1.8 20v Turbo is hardly rapid (has plenty of tuning potential thou). IMO the best mk4 is a TDi one. i've got a mk4 2.0gti, and i agree it isnt the most powerful engine about,its quick enough thanks to a nice torque curve,its sits happily at 70+mph all day even when fully loaded. And thirsty? don't think so! 33-35mpg round town and 47mpg on a run two up and full to the brim with gear,and that would probably improve when i get rid of the super lo-pro stretched tyres i'm running. its a simple ,bulletproof engine which can (and does) get easily fixed at home.  |
| |
Last Edit: May 19, 2012 12:16:23 GMT by Imperial
|
|
v1xz
Part of things
i'm retro
Posts: 661
|
|
May 20, 2012 13:48:45 GMT
|
Got it washed and cleaned yesterday Can i have your grill please andy?  |
| |
Last Edit: May 20, 2012 13:53:19 GMT by v1xz
1998 Merc E240 1997 BMW 728i 1998 VW Passat 2000 Kangoo 1999 Transit LWB 1999 Matiz SE 2001 Clio 1998 Golf GTi 1996 Ford Luton.... Retired.... Want a Motorbike... Got one... Yamaha WR125X... Missed RR sooo much... 1983 Porsche 944 1997 Celica 2000 Clio 1993 MR2 1992 MR2T 1989 325i Touring
|
|
|
|
