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I need a drivers window for my 1978 colt sigma. When I bought the car it had a perspex "replacement" but the trouble is you cant undo it at speed and to wind it back up you have to guide it back in the runners. I have put a wanted ad up but on the off chance I cant find one does anybody know roughly where I could get one made and how much it would cost? Or any leads on where I might find one. Here is the car:
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Wrecker's yards? Importers? I know that they're plentiful in Australia and presumably there would have to be a few left in Japan as well.
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Ideally id like to try and find one in this country to make it easier. Importers etc are a last last resort.
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Dez
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flat or curved?
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May 14, 2012 12:01:09 GMT
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What I meant was an import car parts place. Might be worth ringing around a few places that import Japanese car parts just to see if they happen to have one? I would try wreckers first though, someone has to have one of these things! Tin worm can't get the glass!
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May 14, 2012 15:48:09 GMT
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Curved unfortunately Dez Flat would of been nice could of got one cut then. Yeah i'll give yards a try waveman but they aren't a common car over here let alone a common scrapped car.
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May 14, 2012 18:41:54 GMT
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Getting a curved toughened window isn't going to be cheap. Try windscreen companies and even Mitsubishi for NOS glass. Do you have windscreen cover on your insurance (it also covers all other glass) as insurer could have "contacts".
Paul H
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May 14, 2012 19:18:23 GMT
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Insurers imported 2 new screens from Aus for the HQ Holden I had, 1st one was cracked in transit! Good job it was only the excess to pay!
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May 14, 2012 20:53:51 GMT
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Head to a scrappy, find a window bigger than the one in yours but with the same curvature.
Make an accurate template of the window from your passenger window...then find an engineering company with a waterjet cutter. They should be able to cut the larger window down the the exact shape of the one you need, even adding any mounting holes (if the window uses holes to mount/locate)
Waterjet should be able to manage a nice clean cut without shattering the window.
That's certainly what I would be doing anyway.....
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May 14, 2012 21:48:12 GMT
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Head to a scrappy, find a window bigger than the one in yours but with the same curvature. Make an accurate template of the window from your passenger window...then find an engineering company with a waterjet cutter. They should be able to cut the larger window down the the exact shape of the one you need, even adding any mounting holes (if the window uses holes to mount/locate) Waterjet should be able to manage a nice clean cut without shattering the window. That's certainly what I would be doing anyway..... I didn't think you could cut toughended glass. Googled just in case I was wrong but found even a waterjet company saying it's process will shatter toughened glass. Paul h
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May 14, 2012 21:58:22 GMT
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That's strange. I've actually seen it done (first hand) but it was only a small piece of glass....a small quarterlight window. I didn't think to ask them what the success/failure rate is though?
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Dez
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May 14, 2012 22:27:06 GMT
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yeah, you cant cut toughened. well, you can, but it involves de-toughening it, then re-toughening it after, which is so horrendously expensive it would never get done.
the above method would work with laminated though, i know youre not 'supposed' to have lamitaed as side glass, but i cant see it making any difference in an accident as it would just go all floppy and fall out as its onlt attached to something on one side, no different to toughened shattering.
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Dez
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May 14, 2012 22:30:57 GMT
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in fact, I think if it was mine, i think id be able to cut one out of the centre (the flatter bit) of a windscreen. might take a few goes but its gotta be cheaper than getting one made, the kustom boys do sh1t like that all the time. then get the edges ground to finish it.
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Last Edit: May 14, 2012 22:32:30 GMT by Dez
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You definately can't cut toughened glass without de-tempering it first. Think of toughned glass being like a balloon. Cut it or try to drill it and it'll pop. The problem with laminated for side glass, is that it'll most likely crack when you slam the door, especially if it's not fully wound up. That's the main reason it isn't used for that purpose.
Personally, I'd just get one sent over from Oz. A door glass isn't that big and being toughened, it's much less likely to get broken in transit. Wrap it in a few layers of bubble wrap then some stiff card and it'll be fine. I've sent side windows abroad before without a problem.
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This was bugging me so much I rang the engineering company this morning.
I wasn't imagining things, they definitely did cut quarter lights, but it turns out they got them tempered after cutting. (I did not know this at the time). They made them for a customer who was converting cars to have opening quarter lights in place of fixed ones. The windows needed to be smaller due to the extra frame, hence making new ones. I just thought they were cutting ready toughened glass but it appears I was wrong. Apologies. ;D
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May 15, 2012 13:18:22 GMT
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I've used Uroglass for a short run of heated Series One Landrover windscreen panels and they were friendly, professional and honoured their price - even though they made about 50p on each one in the end. The guy I spoke to said they did quite a lot of one off compound curve windscreens for competition cars. As it's a 'mass' produced part I presume that someone, somewhere will have the dimensions / technical spec. of the glass that would make sense to a specialist ......
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May 15, 2012 13:31:30 GMT
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May 15, 2012 16:28:41 GMT
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can you use the sandblaster method of cutting toughened glass? might take a while though as I'm assuming it is quite tough.
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May 15, 2012 17:24:56 GMT
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Fibersports can make curved perspex windows if all else fails, plastic scratches really easily in wind up windows though. www.fibresports.co.uk/home
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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