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I have been toying with ideas for a new car, one entails using a 3.0 Omega V6, I'm only just starting to do my research, I have been struck by the lack of manual gearboxes, were they all autos??? If they are, is there a simple way to go manual?  whats the crack with the Frontera 3.2 V6, is it the same engine as the 2.5 and 3.0.?? Thank you gentlemen, I wait your response ;D |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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most 3 ,itres were auto, manual an option, plenty about though, if you only want the running gear then look for an ex polac job cheaper and all came with lsd ;D
edit manual box is designated r28 hydraulic release bearing and stronger gears, r25 is cable clutch and slightly less strong gears,
also same bellhousing pattern as c20let etc so plenty of boxes to choose from
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Last Edit: May 1, 2012 18:14:14 GMT by rwdrules
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I have no information to aid you in your search but I was behind a very well sorted looking (and sounding) Omega V6 estate today.
I accidentally (honest) did a bit of sliding and tyre smoking as I pulled out of a junction behind him. We ended up stopped at traffic lights and he properly schooled me in smoking away from the line.
The way he used the brakes suggests it was an auto, rather than a manual.
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I have no information to aid you in your search but . . . . . On a similar theme, an aquaintance (owns fastestest tigra in the world) once had an ex-force manual estate. It was very difficult to follow him anywhere because; 1) it was FAST. 2) I struggled to see past the tears of laughter rolling down my face as i watched it fishtail like an overweight polar bear on sheet ice. |
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Frontera 3.2 should be an Isuzu V6, having had one, they are a brilliant engine.
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v8ian
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Thanks for the replies, next question woukd have to be, will the transverse engines convert to RWD???
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Thanks for the replies, next question woukd have to be, will the transverse engines convert to RWD??? Yes, bolt together job. |
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I had a r reg mv6 saloon a few years ago. Was a manual and was very good. Handle quite good for its size and could get along the road very quickly. On motorway they are very good for cruising along in. Mine had all black leather and nice vauxhall alloys. Sold it to a friend who loved it. He got through the rears tyres quickly though.
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I had a manual 2.5, hatefull thing, handled like it was drunk, thanks to the prehistoric front suspension no doubt, gutless engine, dreadfull to work on, uncomfortable and absolutely dire on fuel, when it threw a rod i celebrated it's death...  I scrapped it with the manual gearbox and all the bits in it, had it up for breaking on ebay for ages, so i guess you could pick up transmission stuff cheap as chips |
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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v8ian
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ooooooh this is all sounding good, I can see Bog Bros getting a call, and have it on bike bodies or carbs, I think I may even have an old Emerald ECU somewhere too,
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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I also had the V6 Omega estate. It was comfy but it was slow and very thirsty. I sold it because its cheaper to run a V8 yank tank. I actually sold mine and bought another LS400 before moving back to yanks as dailies
People will tell you the MV6 Omega (3.0 and 3.2) are so quick blah blah but they are not. There are a load of cars in the bargain bucket quicker and better handling and maybe better on fuel too...
Remember also that the 3.2 is in the facelift one and thats in the emissions rated tax as a "gas guzzler"
A decent cam belt kit seemed expensive when I had mine, certainly more than the same job on a Lexus or whatever.
If you wanted a FWD version of that 3.0 and 3.2 V6 you can find it in the Vectra occasionally. My fevered brain suggests the Astra may have had it also but I remember all sorts of stuff that never actually happened.
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if you can get a 3.2 they have potential, but they are a electrical mare in the ecu dept. I almost dropped a 3.0 mv6 lump into my vec b years back, but sold it to someone else who did the same. We popped it on a RR and it came back with a very healthy 220bhp ish iirc If it were my chouce though, i would buy a 2.0 ecotec and shove a B204L Saab turbo lump in  |
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Had a 3 litre Elite auto. Lovely car, fully loaded, and managed 43 mpg on a 600 mile round trip to Alton Towers 4 up. They like a coil pack though. And sometimes they give the symptoms of headgasket gone but its usually the oil cooler which is down the middle of the 'V'
I have got a 2.5 manual at the minute but I just use it for drifting. Would definitely have another as a main car though
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In the OP, I think the suggestion is using the powertrain rather than use the entire soggy old barge.
The transverse engine from the Vectra has its advantages for transplant.
The exhaust manifolds point down from the middle of the engine in the Vectra. In the Omega the manifolds poke out the back straight towards the bulkhead. X30XE transplanters often end up looking for FWD manifolds, and they're not easy to get. Check how many are on eBay, Then check how many Omega V6 manifolds are listed, and how cheap they are.
The RWD sump looks like a hammer-head shark, about 470mm at the widest point which may be too wide to fit between retro chassis legs. The FWD is a more traditional shape.
You can still hunt out manifolds and sumps from the X25XE and C25XE, but you get them free along with a FWD donor :-)
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I had a 3.2 MV6 auto and contrary to previous posts it was damned fast. and with the mahoosive wheel/tyre arrangement, went like a hoofing great go-kart. The Elite model my Wife had was like driving a marshmallow though.
Also, contrary to previous posts, it was one thirsty curse word. I couldn't get better than 27 MPG no matter how gently I drove it.
Cam belts need done every 40k, be aware of the false CHG symptoms and the coil packs are only an issu in the Omegas due to water dripping off the scuttle and onto the packs. Leaking cambox gaskets are a pest though.
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I suppose it depends on what you class as fast but book figure is 0-60 in 8 sec for the 3.2 MV6 which is pretty OK for a car that size, but the 3.0 is about a second slower (depending on manual or auto) so about 9 sec. which isn't quick really. Not when you can buy an LS400 with same MPG more or less and get 0-60 in mid 6 seconds to low 7 sec depending on the model you buy...
My 2.5 V6 CDXi auto estate was about 11 sec 0-60.
I still like them but I cant see me ever owning another one.
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I had a manual 2.5 Omega didn't go to bad and IMO its wasn't that bad on fuel. Although mine was gutted (the seats are stupidly heavy!) I reckon I'd removed a good 80-90kg from mine. Don't get me wrong it was no rocket, but it was the best car I've ever drifted. Anyway.....
If your thinking of using the engine I'd ditch the dual mass flywheel, it's very expensive for the flywheel and the clutch. A V6 Vectra solid flywheel and clutch is a direct replacement (I did it got loads of comparison photos if you want). Other GM flywheels can be used but it requires spacing of the concentric slave cylinder.
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These also came badged up as a Cadilac Catera, would be interesting seeing one badged up as a Caddy instead of an Opel.
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I saw my old Omega estate last night!
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whats the crack with the Frontera 3.2 V6, is it the same engine as the 2.5 and 3.0.??
