MonzaPhil
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Well, I had a letter regarding our Discovery that was written off at the tail end of last year. Basically it was hit from behind and the gearbox got upset and locked in gear, NFU wrote it off then made some sort of derisory valuation. Obviously I work in the right environment to fix this sort of thing so I had it back on the road in a few days. The only thing I had to do was put the car through an MOT, no biggie as it only had a few days to run after the accident, sorry, road traffic collision. Anyhoo, MOTd, taxed and insured, been driving it for 6 monthsish and went to transfer our new plate on to it, got a letter back saying the car needs a VIC check. I checked when I first got it back on the road and there was no VIC marker but there is now. My question, before I go totally postal on the NFU, is should I be driving it and surely I shouldn't have been able to even tax it. The "local" VOSA station is about an hour away which doesn't help and means half a day off work. Of course, I'm assuming it's the insurance company who flag a VIC marker...... Any advice please? Have a VIC20 for your troubles...  and a truck (Paul from Coltech)  |
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Ryannn
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I think you can drive without a VIC check. I had a mate with a mini that needed one, he used it and sold it before the time period elapsed and the next owner got it done instead.
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MrSpeedy
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Apr 20, 2012 12:04:47 GMT
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When my old Merc got bumped a couple of years ago, the insurance co put a vic marker on it, but neglected to inform me! I repaired it and cntinued to drive it, mot'ing and taxing it TWICE with no mention of the VIC.
It was only when the new owner sent the logbook off for change of owner that he got a letter back saying it needed a VIC. Needless to say, he wasn't too impressed!
When my dad's motorbike got stolen last year the insurance co wrote it off as total loss, but he retained the salvage, repaired it (at a cost of about £50) and has been riding it ever since. He still gets letters from the insurance co asking for the logbook, because they wrote it off as total loss and want to cube it.(because it was set on fire, but that only melted the twist grip!) They seem to forget that they only insure the vehicle, they DON'T own it!
He has never had any notification about a VIC either, but going on my experience I bet it needs one
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bortaf
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Apr 20, 2012 12:28:29 GMT
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It is only a VIC, the lowest form of check they do, you can drive it all you want it just pops up when the next change to the V5 happens (usually a new owner) they just want to make sure you didn't swap the plates onto another vehical cos they will have no idea what the damage was or wasn't just that it was written off, it's normal and there's no-one to moan at, sometimes they miss the odd car but it's nowt to do with the insurance, the DVLA mark it as needing a VIC cos it was written off, people seem to get in a tizzy about the VIC, it's NOTHING, very quick and simple and as i said the lowest form of check there is (with the corrisponding lack of info recorded by the DVLA  |
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Apr 20, 2012 13:17:33 GMT
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VIC is basically - does VIN on car match VIN on V5C? Does VIN on car appear to have been altered or transfered from another car? Thats about it, isn't it?
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skinnylew
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Apr 20, 2012 13:45:49 GMT
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Any ideas how much it costs to have it done? I'm possibly buying a cat C car for the missus and need to factor that into the costs as well as taxing/moting headaches lol
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MrSpeedy
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Apr 20, 2012 13:59:33 GMT
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I believe it's about £50
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skinnylew
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Apr 20, 2012 14:18:28 GMT
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Stuff that I was being lazy: £41 lol
I'm still a little confused though, the V5 is kept at the DVLA until the VIC check is done, what if the car changes ownership during that time? Just a receipt sufficient to change the ownership at the DVLA after VIC test?
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Apr 20, 2012 14:33:33 GMT
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Also also - op mentioned reg plate change - DVLA are getting funny about VIC when plate is changed, had that happen to someone I know
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Apr 20, 2012 15:26:12 GMT
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Not doing the VIC means the DVLA won't re-issue a V5 or send you V11 tax reminders.
So if you change keeper, address or vehicle details then you'll need to do the VIC to get the V5.
To tax the car you won't be able to do it online, but you can in a post office.
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MonzaPhil
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Apr 20, 2012 18:50:40 GMT
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Thanks folks, my bind is that I wasn't informed of any of this and it's more cash to shell out and I just wanted my plate on it, I know it's an old Discovery but we keep it nice and I've never had the urge to change a reg number until now.  This is the silly plate the fuss is all about  |
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Ryannn
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Apr 20, 2012 22:39:27 GMT
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Wow, that's quite a good plate! Original?
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MonzaPhil
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Apr 20, 2012 22:57:17 GMT
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Yep, been trying to get it for a couple of years, bought it end of last year after last owner passed away. Had the opportunity to get it (on the Defender) for £500 a few years ago but passed on it, yes it's the original plate and it's only from trying to transfer it that this VIC nonsense has come to light. Of course when the Disco 5 is launched, I might be tempted to sell it on......
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bortaf
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That plate must be worth a grand + and you moaning about £50 to keep it ? lol
Any written off car will need a VIC on the next V5 change unless the DVLA miss it which does happen, who exactly should have told you what is up to you to find out ?
Sorry to sound a "bit off" but that's how i see it not a dig just a general veiw.
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My 1987 Civic DX got hit from behind and written off. I retained the salvage and replaced the rear fog light lens (£8.00) Had to surrender V5 and have it re-MOT'd, booked it in for a VIC at the local DVLA. (35.00) My insurance had reverted to third party, but on presentation of the VIC certificate was reinstated to fully comp. Drove it continously from date of accident and eventually sold the car. Disclosed Cat D status but didn't seem to cause any problems for new owner. The insurance company engineer who wrote the car off had assured me that I would have no problems and that my insurance would continue unchanged. I believed him. If I'd known about the VIC thing, I'd probably have accepted his derisory offer, but as luck would have it, even though he was talking through his rectal orifice, the actual procedure wasn't too ardous.
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Apr 21, 2012 13:15:18 GMT
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The dvla often ask for a vic check on vehicles that you are trying to transfer a plate off, we had the same thing years ago when a customer traded their rover 800 in for a new car and wanted to swap the plate, the rover had lunched it's autobox but we still had to drag it to the dvla office so they could confirm it is the right car.
I think it's to do with reg stripping old knackers, so you can't get a false mot on a knackered car for it's valuable plate, probably nothing to do with your shunt.
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bortaf
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Apr 22, 2012 17:47:58 GMT
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The dvla often ask for a vic check on vehicles that you are trying to transfer a plate off, we had the same thing years ago when a customer traded their rover 800 in for a new car and wanted to swap the plate, the rover had lunched it's autobox but we still had to drag it to the dvla office so they could confirm it is the right car. I think it's to do with reg stripping old knackers, so you can't get a false mot on a knackered car for it's valuable plate, probably nothing to do with your shunt. Vic check is nothing to do with the condition of the car just that it is the car you say it is, i've taken MOT'd and un MOT'd cars to VIC checks, even ones with bent MOTs on em, they all passed. |
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Apr 22, 2012 19:10:11 GMT
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No I know, I was suggesting it is so you have to show that the car you are attempting to move the plate from is the one you say it is, that is all.
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MonzaPhil
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Apr 22, 2012 19:53:09 GMT
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Yeah, I was just annoyed that it had no VIC marker when I put it back on the road, but now, six months down the road it has, would have been nice to have some sort of warning as I have to take time off work etc to sort out something I didn't even know about and it's delayed my plate change. I'm not fussed about the value of the number, I just thought it would be cool on the Discovery.
I didn't know about the write off/vic check thing, never had a car written off and didn't plan on it happening to this one, forced into the write off situation by the useless insurance company and it has taken 6 months or so to get them to settle.
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