OUTRUN
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OK, I really need to do something about this.
I have a private number plate which is currently on a car I have owned for 10 years, the plate in question having been on the vehicle for around 8.5 years. Now, the car is SORN, and will never see the road again unfortunately. This is due to it being a project which spiralled out of control and I lost insterest in, having owned if for so long.
As I say, the car will never be to an MOT'able standard again, and all that is left of it at present is a very chopped about shell. It would have been scrapped by now were it not for this major issue.
The car in question has been SORNed for around 5.5 years now.
Does anyone know anyway at all I can transfer this number to my current car?
Obviously the car is more than 6 months out of tax and test, so I have not contacted the DVLA directly about this issue, incase some form of marker is put against it.
I guess the DVLA could be concerned I am 'ringing' a vehicle. but surely they would see this is not the case if it is being transfered from one car in my name to another in my name? Thanks to all the people that were removing dateless plates from vehicles for profit, we now have this situation, which for honest people like me, puts us in a right place. :/
The number plate means a lot to me, as it was a gift for my 21st birthday, and i really wish I had put it on retention before I started seriously messing with the car. I wasn't to know at the time that it would not feature in my future plans though. Such is life!
Has anyone been in a similar situation at all? Any and all advice is very much appreciated. Feel free to PM me if need be,
Thanks, LIam.
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I need your help to get back to the year 1985.
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Hi there,
It's not something I've been involved with but you might find people can give you better idea of the options if they have a rough idea about what type of car it is.
I'm thinking it should be quite simple to get your chassis to MOT standard and put a tidy body on if it's a landrover (and all legal - will just take lots of hours to do)
No so simple if it's a mini and the shell is in pieces, part-way through a roof chop & sectioning project and/or RWD V8 transplant.
Hopefully somebody can give you an easy solution, worst case - would it be worth farming the work out to somebody who can get it to MOT standard??
Edit : just noticed where you are. Feel free to PM me - I'm based around Durham most of the time.
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Last Edit: Jan 19, 2012 1:37:40 GMT by nomad
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As far as important aware u only need v5 to remove plate - I've taken 3 plates of and each time they didn't need the car
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Built to a standard ready to be modified to perfection
1995 Charcoal Rover 220 GSIT (WIP)
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stealthstylz
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The car needs to be MOT'd to remove the plate. Nothing else you can do (apart from get a dodgy MOT).
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^ As Stealthy said, the car NEEDS to have a mot or any Tom, Dick or Harry would be buying scrap cars for the number plates.
The only way around it would be to have a dodgy mot done, good luck finding someone willing to do one for you though.
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Never said anything about mother to me even tho they sent new cert - dvla bristol
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Built to a standard ready to be modified to perfection
1995 Charcoal Rover 220 GSIT (WIP)
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I'm afraid it's not even as simple as 'just' needing an MOT. The car must also be taxed to transfer a reg plate. You can transfer the plate if the tax ran out less than 12 months ago, but if it's longer than that (which in you case, it is) then you're going to need to insure the car to tax it before you can even apply for a transfer.
The other thing to bear in mind is you might get called for an inspection. This is not a certainty, but seeing as the 'donor' car has been off the road for so long they will possibly want to see the car in its MOT'd and roadworthy state. This system was put in Place to stop people from pulling plates of scrapped or dead cars. The inspection calls for both cars to be presented at a local DVLA office where an inspector will check the identity of each vehicle (mainly the donor car) to ensure the car is legit and not a ringer. This is obviously to prevent people from sticking the cherished plate onto an identical car and passing it off as the donor car.
It sounds like you're a bit screwed which isn't the news you wanted to hear I'm afraid. Personally I wouldn't advocate the dodgy MOT route for a second because you have a high chance of getting an inspection due to the car not having been taxed for a number of years by the sound of it. This will show upnon their system when you come to do the transfer and it's cars that have been off the road for a while that they are most likely to pull for physical inspection.
Sorry if it's not the answer you were looking for but unless you can rebuild your car then there is no genuine legal way of getting your plate back I'm afraid.
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spiny
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yep, to echo all the above, the car needs to be taxed and tested to be able to move a plate off it.
also, if the car has been off the road for some time, you are quite likely to get asked to have it inspected too, the DVLA may be useless, but they are not daft.
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As above.
Every (& there have been quite a few) regurgitated car that I've legalised for a plate swop has been inspected. Without exception.
Whereas every car that has been legal for several years -done by post.
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Jan 19, 2012 10:16:09 GMT
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You don't have to go to the DVLA centre - a mate had his done at home. DVLA sent an inspector to his house because for some reason he could not attend the centre. This is important to remember now they are closing so many regional offices. I'd hate to have to go all the way to Swansea for an inspection
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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con2k
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Jan 19, 2012 10:55:51 GMT
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What about permanently exporting a car or a car accident? Can a plate be put on retention/transferred then without MOT, insurance and tax if the car is going overseas or damaged beyond repair?
Surely there are situations where someone transporting an untaxed car on a trailer has been severely damaged and can't therefore be MOT'd to retain the plate before being scrapped? Or a theft from a garage. It is not the fault of the owner if their car was stolen from storage. Surely there is some comback in these situations and therefore may help in his current situation?
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Jan 19, 2012 11:10:53 GMT
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You can get cherrished number insurance which covers you in this situation where the DVLA won't release the number (car stolen and not recovered etc.) so this suggests that if there is insurance for it then you must be at risk of loss.
If the car was in an accident you'd still have T&T on it, even if it were mangled beyond repair.
If you export a car, you would put the cherished plate on retention before you did so. Same as if you sold the car and wanted to keep the plate.
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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con2k
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Jan 19, 2012 11:44:31 GMT
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What about stolen from storage or damaged in transit (not road legal)?
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Jan 19, 2012 12:01:02 GMT
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I'm going to guess its either tough luck or you should have it insured. Anything worth any money should always be insured for whatever risk may occur. Or you accept the risk of not insuring it.
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Last Edit: Jan 19, 2012 12:01:22 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 19, 2012 16:52:43 GMT
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In reality, exactly how far of being legal is this car? Also depending on the car.
What I'm thinking is, get the car legal, useable, insured (if it's classic, it wont be much i shouldn't think). Then tax it! Do what you need to do with the reg.
Then there is the car, would the car be worth selling? Even if as a spares or repairs runner, or Work in progress with T&T. Or even send the tax back for a partial re-fund and sell what's left with MOT.
It might reduce costs a bit, who knows, might make you a dollar or two AND get your reg back.
Of course i don't know the car, or it's state, it's just what i'm thinking. ;D
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86mike
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Jan 19, 2012 17:24:36 GMT
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My friend had the exact same issue, as people have said before you have to have an MOT to transfer a plate. There are dodgy ways to get round it but is it worth it?
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Jan 19, 2012 17:46:12 GMT
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Yeah, pretty much as above. You can get a cherished plate back off a car that is stolen and not recovered BUT the car has to be on the road (tax and test) when stolen and you have to wait 18 months before they will let you have the number back.
A car that is a partly cut up shell is, i'm afraid, dead. To anyone in a similar situatuon (modifying a car with a cherished number) I would recommend removing the number and putting it on retention (or another car) before starting the work. This avoids both the OP's situation, and the problem of possible BIVA testing putting your rebuild on a Q (and losing the number in the process).
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