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Things are looking up,
It looks like we've finally got the plot we were gunning for that has parking for 4 cars and a 5.4x5m garage.
If we can get the site cleared of it's current prefab garages, I'm hoping to build something a little taller, perhaps with some windows in too.
Has anyone had any experience with garage design and what permissions are required for what sort of building?
What are the pros and cons of each material, and what is the best solution, long term?
Keep watching this space!
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Last Edit: Jun 11, 2013 22:10:48 GMT by ruffgeezer
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Baz and Lewist12345678 are your guys.
I am sure there are others as well, as long as they actually take the time to reply.
Hope you are going to post Before pics as it is now.
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Well this is the land as it lies, our house is the white one on the right, but we don't have the luxury of a garden (the parking space with the saxo in is next door's now), but when these became available, we thought that down the line, if we tried to sell, off street parking would help. So what are the sectional garages like? Inside number 3 the floor is damp but most of the panels here are intact: Inside number 2 however, you can see a couple of panels that have "blown" Time will tell if all this comes off, wish us luck!
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I think first thing would be contact the local council to confrim what you can and cannot do with the site. There might be some restrictions of use that could mess up any plans - although I doubt it. If it is bordered by other property any building of new structure will require the council to contact anyone affected to see if they have any objection to your proposed plans. Building a new garage to replace existing shouldn't be a problem but going upwards might be a stumbling block. Also consider change of use permission could be required depending on how it's currently listed - ie if it's going to become a workshop instead of just personal vehicle storage. Also making any part into a garden could could problems at a later date if the property is ever sold if the legal change isn't done. My lock-up has restriction in that no working on vehicles of any type is allowed. Good luck - I'm envious as I'd love such a plot myself Paul H
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skinnylew
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remember tim the Ax's take up 3/4's of the space a normal size car does so by those calculations its parking for 5 Ax's and another 4 in the garage lol
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Cool space you have acquired there.
Remember, no matter how well you plan, by the time it is done, there will be 3 changes you want already..... DAMHIK ;D
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Right well as of 12pm yesterday, the garages are officially ours!
Does anyone want some free sectional garages? I'm just waiting for someone from the planning office to get back to me before stage 2.
Here is the million dollar question, brickbuilt or prefab?
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Mar 24, 2012 21:45:52 GMT
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I prefer timber, but your choice really.
It is easier to build, probably cheaper too vs bricks and blocks.
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Mar 25, 2012 12:56:41 GMT
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The thing about timber ones is the constant need for maintaining them, there isn't a lot of room around the garages to apply preservatives etc, so they might not last that long?
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Mar 25, 2012 14:40:11 GMT
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whats the priority? longevity/security/price?
Longevity and security - brick all 3 - breeze block (rendered if you want it to look nice) price - wood.
before you lay any foundations your first job would be to run a length of drainpipe or similar underground from your house to the garage site, that way you can drag your electric supply, water supply (if youve got room, install a shower - it saves tramping curse word into the house), phone line etc etc through it and upgrade/repair at a later date.
On another note, further down the line if you need a hand wiring it give me a shout.
Cheers
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before you lay any foundations your first job would be to run a length of drainpipe or similar underground from your house to the garage site, that way you can drag your electric supply, water supply (if youve got room, install a shower - it saves tramping curse word into the house), phone line etc etc through it and upgrade/repair at a later date. Good Call. I'd run two cat5 network cables too. so you can get broadband down there!
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MiataMark
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before you lay any foundations your first job would be to run a length of drainpipe or similar underground from your house to the garage site, that way you can drag your electric supply, water supply (if youve got room, install a shower - it saves tramping curse word into the house), phone line etc etc through it and upgrade/repair at a later date. Good Call. I'd run two cat5 network cables too. so you can get broadband down there! Or if you're running power to the garage use 'ethernet over power' to extend your network, Depending on teh distance might be more reliable. Mark
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Mar 27, 2012 21:34:31 GMT
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Trouble is I'd have to cross other people's land to get power to it, so I might have to put it on it's own supply.
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Mar 27, 2012 21:53:12 GMT
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I'M SO RETRO , I SH1T SPANGLES
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Trouble is I'd have to cross other people's land to get power to it, so I might have to put it on it's own supply. Go solar with some batteries, might be cheaper than getting connected. Have a look here, www.navitron.org.uk/the forum is full of interesting ideas www.navitron.org.uk/forum/
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Last Edit: Mar 28, 2012 8:36:24 GMT by MiataMark
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Might be worth asking the landowners about running a cable across. Some people are surprisingly cool and if it helps turn some ugly garages into something nicer they might well be fine.
If you do, take photos before and after in case of any issues.
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I have come up with a cunning plan for the electric, but I suspect we will be having a new prefab garage installed as we've had some pretty decent quotes.
Because we aren't firmly rooted to this house, it didn't make a lot of sense to build one from scratch, but I'd need to do fairly major work to the current garages to make them as I want.
This way we'll have a 16ftx18'5" work/storage space, I can't wait!
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Jul 28, 2012 15:50:44 GMT
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Ok well update time, a few things to start with, We have been given a bordering reasonable quote for have a fresh electricity supply laid on, so the garages will be independent of the house, that is probably the next big job to occur, because recently, this happened: As good as his word, the chap who bought the garages turned up on Monday with money and a BFO trailer, here is what went down: Arrival; the doors are first to go, one loaded already: As he takes the first load (doors and hinges) I grabbed a quick shot of the work so far; And at the end of day one, a couple of strips of roof are taken too: Day two sees the rest of the roof taken as well as most of the outer wall on the left hand unit: Note the pile of tin down the side? More on that later... He came back this evening, hoping to complete the job (as I write, he has just come back) Oh yeah, that tin? A full load for trev (my trusty rusty van, bought for this project) to take for weighing in tomorrow, so hopefully a bit of cash back...
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Jul 30, 2012 23:44:35 GMT
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excellent! Not sure how much scrap you can fit in a C15 Tim, not exactly cavernous size or payload wise are they?!
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It'll take a full pallet up to 600kg
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