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Oct 21, 2011 20:23:38 GMT
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The certificate has been nothing more than a reciept since we went over to computerisation. Its just that some people didnt seem to realise.
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R.S. Autotech. Servicing/Repairs/Diagnostics.
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Oct 21, 2011 20:25:44 GMT
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It does look very plain,
one of my cars has now had three types of MOT certs in its life now
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bortaf
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Oct 21, 2011 20:27:28 GMT
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So am I the only one who thinks this change isn't going to affect me at all? Me neither but maybe we are in a minoraty of not activly seeking reasons to moan ? Personly if somone came round to buy my car i'd let them use my PC to check the MOT on line while i make them a cuppa but then i like to sell cars not make excuses why i cant  the only time i can see there being a problem is buying off an old person and even then you look at the V5, txt the wife or kids at home and get them to check it, christ even my 70 years old mum is on the net BUT me 90 year old gramps isnt so don't buy a car off my grandad if you don't have the internet on your phone or a wife or kids or don't know somone on the net. bring on the " what if the wife is at work or the kids are at school"  |
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Oct 21, 2011 20:31:28 GMT
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The certificate has been nothing more than a reciept since we went over to computerisation. Its just that some people didnt seem to realise. Good point. Just that the paper the receipt was printed on before was harder to forge/obtain illegitimately (I'm ignoring RDD and SOC in that statement ;D ) I'll be sticking in the J69, SOC and Bortaf camp on this issue  |
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Oct 21, 2011 20:35:38 GMT
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It is a bit curse word for people that can't use a computer or the interwebs though. My dad doesn't have a clue about that sort of thing.
I guess that's why you have kids though...
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1989 Peugeot 205. You know, the one that was parked in a ditch on the campsite at RRG'17... the glass is always full. but the ratio of air to water may vary. |
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Oct 21, 2011 21:07:31 GMT
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Is everyone missing the fact that there is a telephone helpline for checking MoT validity, and that the number has been printed on EVERY mot issued since 2004?
I know, this is forcing people to use evil modern telephones.... ;D
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Oct 21, 2011 21:11:37 GMT
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Is everyone missing the fact that there is a telephone helpline for checking MoT validity, and that the number has been printed on EVERY mot issued since 2004? Yes we are. Thanks for that |
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1989 Peugeot 205. You know, the one that was parked in a ditch on the campsite at RRG'17... the glass is always full. but the ratio of air to water may vary. |
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Oct 21, 2011 21:42:49 GMT
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Just getting back to reality for a moment... I have bought an awful lot of cars in my time and have never been defrauded with any kind of fake MOT paperwork. Most times, I've not even seen the test certificate until after I have bought the car, I've just taken the seller at their word that it's got test. And yet in several hundred car purchases, I've never ever had a problem so I'd say it's extremely unlikely for your average buyer to be stiffed by an unscrupulous seller with a fake test cert. I'm sure it happens but I'll wager it's mega rare so not worth getting all worked up about.
I couldn't care less about the new test paperwork. Really. They can write "U can haz mot" on a scrap of paper if they like and give me that providing it's tested, legal and on the system. If I sell a car and the buyer is so worried they want to double check then they can go right ahead. No problem!
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1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
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stealthstylz
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Oct 21, 2011 22:11:25 GMT
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Is everyone missing the fact that there is a telephone helpline for checking MoT validity, and that the number has been printed on EVERY mot issued since 2004? I know, this is forcing people to use evil modern telephones.... ;D And that's my problem with it sorted  Could only see a web based check. |
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Oct 21, 2011 22:44:03 GMT
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Issued 10 already since monday, no complaintts or moans yet. As for people trusting if a cars got an mot? I take a trolley jack and give a car a darn good check before i buy it.
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murran
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Oct 21, 2011 22:45:37 GMT
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I'm a tester and tbh, yes, I'm not messing around with vt20/30/32/40s anymore...... but (ignoring that your car on the database for a year is actually what your paying for/passing)
for my £40/45 i want an official looking document giving to me on passing that looks like a certificate (even if it means nothing).
we have had complaints this week from people asking if we have run out of certs.... and on explaining to them theyve said its curse word.
and i agree with them.
why not get rid of the vt30/32/40's but keep the certs.
as for saving paper, we have curse word loads of the old 4 sheets at our work.
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Oct 21, 2011 23:09:16 GMT
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Works for me! Armed with the cert. no. you have a whole load of ways to find out if its valid or forged, and I'm sure before long there will be a phone app and no doubt places like auto trader & ebay will have places for you to enter the cert. number when you advertise a vehicle on their websites and will say something along the lines of "MOT varified by VOSA" when the ad is viewed. I have mixed views on the "advisories", my first thoughts were that this will hopefully put and end to car traders getting favours from the tester. But what worries me is that those testers will now not list any advisories at all! Either way it should help tighten things up |
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Oct 21, 2011 23:10:19 GMT
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SWMBO's car is in for it's ticket in the morning. If it wasn't for this thread, I would've been a bit confused - especially as, now I live down here, this is my first MOT in a decade that won't be done by my mate - but I can't see how this will affect me otherwise. As already said - I've bought tens of cars over the years and have never ended up with a fake ticket. Then again, I have lost orangey bits of paper before now . . .  |
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kenb
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Oct 21, 2011 23:17:42 GMT
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Well if the idiots/scum/a** holes of our society didnt go round stealing V5C's, Mot's certifs and MoT stamps, then DVLA wouldn't have to continually think up ways of screwing up 'normal' peoples lives, sorry I mean ways of making them worthless to steal.
I mean god forbid people of driving age/ability cant use computers or telephones or carry out some simple checks before buying a car.
My Mums 86 and knows how to use her mobile phone better than I do.
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Also, same system for last 6 years! How often has anyone not been able to tax their car because of a computer fault? I know, I know, it hasn't happened... yet. Who cares what they change, it's their money. No it's NOT. How is giving the V5 number out making it easyer to ring a car ? He meant the numberplates. Obviously. |
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Is everyone missing the fact that there is a telephone helpline for checking MoT validity, and that the number has been printed on EVERY mot issued since 2004? I know, this is forcing people to use evil modern telephones.... ;D And that's my problem with it sorted Could only see a web based check. Seconded. |
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I think I'm missing something here, does the cert have an mot expirery date???
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Yes, it has an expiry date! All the same details are there as the old cert... Oh, and the helpline number is 0870 33 00 444 - you need to have the registration mark and either the test number or the V5c doc reference number ready |
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Relying on paper for proof of anything is antiquated, any move to stop people relying on this is a step in the right direction.
I really don't see how being encouraged to visit a Web site and get the road worthiness inspection history of a vehicle is a bad thing.
The Internet is getting on for twenty years old now, the laggards have had their chance to embrace it.
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Oct 22, 2011 10:24:42 GMT
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The Internet ? Yup, I've heard a lot of rumours about that but it's a a bit far fetched if you ask me.
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