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Oct 17, 2011 10:47:03 GMT
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Winter tyres are not just for the snow, there seems to be a mistaken idea they are only for the snowy bits of winter.
Britain DOES get cold enough to justify having them, they start to outperform normal tyres at 7 degrees C and below which on average is between April and October here in England.
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EmDee
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Oct 17, 2011 11:27:46 GMT
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Putting only two tyres on is pointless.
If you're FWD then yes, you'll get up the hill. You might have some fun oversteery moments, but then when you're coming down a hill you'll brake and the rear wheels will overtake you.
If you're RWD then you wont be able to steer/stop if there on the back and wont be able to go anywhere if they're on the front.
That's why I always laugh when people say "you only need socks/chains on the driven wheels"
Just fork out £200 for 4 cheap snow tyres, it's well worth it.
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scruff
Part of things
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Oct 17, 2011 11:46:18 GMT
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I fitted Kormoran snow tyres on the 924 Turbo last year - the difference was night and day. You can drive normally on compacted snow with just a mild hint of slip on the rears.
Biggest problem was dual carriageway the lemmings all in the NS lane nose to tail doing 20 on the cleared bit, me doing 30 odd in the OS lane on the compacted snow on my own.
But some of the braver lemmings decide to follow me... Now I know I can stop pretty well but they won't! Got to work much faster thatn everyone else!
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MWF
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Oct 17, 2011 12:00:50 GMT
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Winter tyres are not just for the snow, there seems to be a mistaken idea they are only for the snowy bits of winter. Britain DOES get cold enough to justify having them, they start to outperform normal tyres at 7 degrees C and below which on average is between April and October here in England. I know we had a curse word summer but that's a bit extreme! I assume you mean October to April. I think it's worth also considering anyone who drives to work early in the morning and late at night is going to see far colder temperatures than average when the wheels are on the road. In Birmingham last Dec during the snow I saw air temps of -10 around mid-night, I imagine the road surface was even colder. I agree, it's an important point about winter tyres not just being for snow, but I do wonder how many drivers bypass the safety benefits of the increased performance by just driving faster, something already proven some do in this very thread.
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RA40tony
Europe
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Oct 17, 2011 13:30:31 GMT
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Another supporter of winter tyres here Got a set of second hand 16 inch alloys and a set of Nokian winter tyres last year for the Octavia Scout daily. I snowboard lots and Greece has got curse word roads at the best of times and once u add low temperatures, snow, ice and rain it really makes a difference. I usually fit them for for a few weeks at a time in the winter (they live in the garage when not fitted) and they have made a huge difference for a 5 hour trip in 5 degree weather and pouring rain, combined with 3 days in -5 to -10 and snow.
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Oct 17, 2011 14:39:52 GMT
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I also cant praise winter tyres enough, Winter before last my Sierra wasnt the best in the snow on normal tyres. Last winter I had 4 Avon Ice Touring!
Supurb! No problems at all! I pretty much went everywhere in the Sierra, the ONCE I took the Civic out I almost lost it on a corner i'd done 30 min earlier in the Sierra and I was going SLOWER in the Civic!
A lot of people will try and say it's the workman and not the tools. But you cant get a bolt out with a screwdriver!
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2011 14:41:18 GMT by Deleted
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Oct 17, 2011 20:20:16 GMT
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Yes, although not on a FWD. Last winter my area saw 2 foot of snow and I live up a steep hill.
I ran a 190bhp BMW auto with just a pair on the rear, and some decent tread normal tyres on the front. Had no issues at all getting around, while the rest of the street were sliding all over the place. This year I'll be doing the same with a 215bhp BMW manual, and I've got a full set to put on my mothers BMW as well, if she ever brings it round. Unless I find an AWD Subaru in the next few weeks, in which case it will get the winter tyres.
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Oct 17, 2011 22:17:46 GMT
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Plus one for winter tyres, full set for sure.
The socks are alright, only used them on one trip in Sweden though. We also had chains and the socks were much easier to handle, though still an enormous PITA to fit.
Bear in mind that you use them to get you unstuck so, when you need them, it'll be snowing and freezing and you'll maybe be stuck on a dangerous bit of the road or something. That experience pushed me toward proper winter tyres.
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2011 22:19:23 GMT by Battles
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