gazwad
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Mar 16, 2011 13:06:17 GMT
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I've had my mitsubishi delica (l300) for a few months now and i love it apart from one thing - the engine. It's a good, reliable and pretty quiet engine (2.5td auto) but its fairly slow and not particually enconomical. I'm not afraid of swapping engines and making bits so an engine swap seems like a good idea, but which engine?
The requirements are more power but with the same or ideally more mpg! (30 would be great!). I don't mind if it's petrol or deisel (i prefer petrol though) and the configuation doesnt bother my 4cylinder/v6/v8. a v8 would be nice but will i get more than 25mpg?
any ideas?
cheers!
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Mar 16, 2011 13:09:32 GMT
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Chev small block from a Corvette. You know you want to!
In all seriousness though, I'd leave the engine alone, especially if your goal is fuel economy. If you spend more than a couple of hundred on the swap, it would take a big difference in mileage to make the money back within a few years.
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markbognor
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Mar 16, 2011 13:11:20 GMT
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I believe that Bruce (mysterymachine) may well be able to furnish you with a lot of the information you'll need to fit a lexus V8.
An outcome which would of course rule.
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Mar 16, 2011 13:25:15 GMT
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petrol engine on LPG would do the job if you could find a suitable donor, buying a whole car of some description allows you to break the remains and get some extra money back.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Lawsy
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Mar 16, 2011 13:30:11 GMT
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does a lexus V8 fit in the delica then?
i'm eventually going to drop one in the hilux
but as said up top, if your more after mpgeeees then the cost of swap would take ages to recoup..
maybe alter gearing, and make into permanent 2wd would help mpgeees more, but like my surf they are heavy and shaped like a brick so will never get great mpgeees anyway
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Mar 16, 2011 13:51:28 GMT
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I've had my mitsubishi delica (l300) for a few months now and I love it apart from one thing - the engine. It's a good, reliable and pretty quiet engine (2.5td auto) but its fairly slow and not particually enconomical. I'm not afraid of swapping engines and making bits so an engine swap seems like a good idea, but which engine? The requirements are more power but with the same or ideally more mpg! (30 would be great!). I don't mind if it's petrol or deisel (i prefer petrol though) and the configuation doesnt bother my 4cylinder/v6/v8. a v8 would be nice but will I get more than 25mpg? any ideas? cheers! trouble is they do weigh about 2 ton  have a look at this ozzie site with a v6 conversion www.v6conversions.com.au/MITSUBISHI%20L300%204X4.htm |
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gazwad
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Mar 16, 2011 13:59:27 GMT
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I know i'll never get great fuel economy, what i'm after is more power without sacrificing the economy too much, I'm not worried about recouping the cost of converting though improved economy, just don't want it to be worse! LPG is an option (on petrol), i don't know much about it though, how much is a kit and can it be diy fitted?
lexus v8 sounds good (literally), what sort of power/mpg do these get in their native home?
Loosing the 4x4 system isn't a problem, hardly ever going to use it anyway...
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Mar 16, 2011 14:27:55 GMT
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seems pointless losing the 4x4, if you don't want it bsell the delica and buy a 2wd bus, it'll be better on fuel straight away without the hassle. LPG is pretty DIYable if you have the whole lot in a donor car to swop over and are not a complete monkey, this lot are not to far from you and very helpfull, you can even do a course to become certified to check systems. www.tinleytech.co.uk/ |
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Lawsy
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Mar 16, 2011 14:32:51 GMT
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the guys who've dropped the lexus V8's into the hilux's are seeing around high 20 mpgeeeeee's
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gazwad
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Mar 16, 2011 15:14:13 GMT
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I've just read the www.tinleytech.co.uk/ website and found you can fit LPG to diesels for more power and fuel economy, this coupled with a few other mods (intercooler, more boost) might be the easy answer! I've emailed them to see what they say, the only downside i can see is no V8 growl... |
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VIP
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Mar 16, 2011 15:24:34 GMT
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I can't see a Delica coming in at more than an LS400, they are pretty heavy with all the electrickery, and return over 30MPG on a run.
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Mar 16, 2011 15:32:25 GMT
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worth looking at tyres too, the M/Ts on my Vitara have knocked off about 4 or 5mpg. :S
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Mar 16, 2011 16:50:54 GMT
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the guys who've dropped the lexus V8's into the hilux's are seeing around high 20 mpgeeeeee's I might be suffering a lack of imagination but assuming an LS400 engine does fit into an L300 width wise, how do you get it in there? I guess it wouldn't be possible to slot it in from underneath due to the chassis rails running a bit too close together. So do you go in through a door and turn it round in the cab, then down and in? Or does the windscreen needs to come out? |
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V-Force
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Mar 16, 2011 19:05:18 GMT
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What about an L200 engine? It's the same basic engine as the Delica/Pajero engine but has all the common rail gubbins which gives about double the power and (probably) more economy.
Something I wanna do in a few years, L200 engines into Pajeros
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Several other 90s Hondas (shhh they're sleeping)
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Mar 16, 2011 19:45:14 GMT
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Why not just fiddle with what's in there already? Swap out the slushbox to a manual to gain a good few mpg straight away, and just improve what you've already got
Easy as hell to get an extra 1/3 power from a derv, whilst keeping (or even improving!) the standard mpg
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You're like a crazy backyard genius! |
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Mar 16, 2011 19:55:30 GMT
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What about reducing fuel costs rather than improving economy? Are these Bosch pumped?....
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring. |
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Mar 16, 2011 20:14:20 GMT
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reducing the fuelling on a diesel will only have the effect of lowered output - similar to just not putting your foot down in the first place  ....if that's what you were going to suggest? |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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bortaf
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Mar 16, 2011 20:43:43 GMT
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reducing the fuelling on a diesel will only have the effect of lowered output - similar to just not putting your foot down in the first place ....if that's what you were going to suggest? i think he ment run it on veg oil or waist oil ? bosch pumps don't mind it lucas ones tend to brake  |
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Mar 16, 2011 20:51:19 GMT
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reducing the fuelling on a diesel will only have the effect of lowered output - similar to just not putting your foot down in the first place ....if that's what you were going to suggest? I think he ment run it on veg oil or waist oil ? bosch pumps don't mind it lucas ones tend to brake Exactly what I meant  |
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring. |
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mine runs on veg. Best way is to twin tank it thats how ive done mine.
Saves me about 35-40p per litre on new veg oil and if you prepared to filter old veg oil you can save about £1 per litre
it will be an easier conversion if you have not got two batteries like i have. As finding a place for the heat exchanger is the hardest bit as theres not much room in the engine bay to mount it. If you have the single battery model it will fit in next to the battery
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Last Edit: Mar 17, 2011 10:00:30 GMT by samslow
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