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2002 Rover 75. Really...sowen
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Aug 24, 2014 17:34:14 GMT
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Nice, about time somebody had a play about with one!
I've got a diesel estate on 30/40 lowering springs, used to have mk5 Golf 16" steels fitted. Underrated cars, not without their problems but most of the common fixes are well detailed.
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sowen
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Aug 20, 2014 18:19:17 GMT
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This Love the whine
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sowen
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Excellent project, I'm enjoying seeing it evolve and be worked, good on ya!
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sowen
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Aug 19, 2014 16:05:02 GMT
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Wow! That's quite a dramatic change of direction! I liked the compound-blown Rover plan but the Merc plan sound fascinating! I know next to nothing about diesel engines, let alone supercharging them so I shall be watching with interest! I started researching compound charging diesels years ago, and my brother has since compound charged his Land Rover and that is a hoot to drive (apart from the fact it's still a rattly Land Rover tdi). The Mercedes lumps have a great reputation, and are impressively refined for what they are. I like the idea of having something silly powerful and able to average anything over 30mpg without needing eco-driving everywhere very appealing I found this a little while ago, I think it gives a pretty good explanation of how the geometry affects the characteristics of the car linkBeing that I'm thinking along the lines of making completely new upper arms and the mounting points, I have the opportunity to build in some adjustability to experiment with Excellent link - printed off for future reference - cheers. I've never done any proper suspension design stuff before, so far just blagged my way round things making improvements to existing setups. It is a good article, easy to read and understand
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sowen
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Landrover 300tdi RWD gearboxsowen
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Aug 19, 2014 15:49:37 GMT
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No, not got one spare, quickly looking through ebay earlier I was suprised not to see any!
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sowen
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Landrover 300tdi RWD gearboxsowen
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Aug 19, 2014 13:46:56 GMT
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I put that together for a mate on his project, but it never happened in the end. I think all 4 cylinder Defenders upto and including the 200tdi are short bellhousing, so you only use the standard off the shelf clutch etc. The only difference is you need to make a new spigot bush to replace the large Land Rover pinion to the small rwd LT77/R380 type pinion. I think the rwd R380 should drop straight on, but you will need to check the end of the pinion does not bind in the end of the crankshaft, a common issue when going from LT77 to R380. All you need to do is make a spacer shim to go between the bellhousing and gearbox. I think that should cover it from memory!
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sowen
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Landrover gearboxessowen
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Aug 19, 2014 11:38:18 GMT
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If going auto then it isn't as much of an issue, you'll need the correct flexplate for the autobox, should be easier and cheaper to find a complete setup like that. The Range Rover has a higher water pump than the saloon spec engines, also if going auto the earlier Rover P6 would be a good source of complete engine and transmission.
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sowen
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Landrover 300tdi RWD gearboxsowen
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Aug 19, 2014 11:34:11 GMT
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You need a short Defender bellhousing off any early 4 cylinder upto the 200tdi, going by Sam1990's link 300tdi bellhousings are too long like the Discovery
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sowen
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Landrover gearboxessowen
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The manual flywheel is also different, it's larger and takes a 10.5" clutch which doesn't fit in the regular rwd spec bellhousing which uses a 9.5" clutch.
Realistically if you want a 3.5, get one complete from a Rover SD1, it's not worth bothering with the Range Rover lumps unless you want a 3.9 or larger, even then you'll be after regular rwd bits which are most commonly from SD1's.
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Don't go there....
The transfer case does indeed unbolt, but there is no way without throwing time and money at it to make a normal propshaft fit, the entire rear end is designed to fit the transfer box, and not the transfer box designed to fit the gearbox. It will be cheaper and infinitely easier to just buy a complete ready to go rwd gearbox for the Rover V8, bellhousing and gear selector included.
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sowen
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Aug 18, 2014 12:50:52 GMT
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Going by that you could almost completely assume that the outboard brakes are compatible with the earlier inboard type, but presumably it will be harder to find a specifically late XJS, especially in Australia?
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sowen
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Aug 18, 2014 11:49:29 GMT
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Xj40 seems excessive when late xjs bolts straight up, has outboard disks, LSD and an anti roll bar What year did the XJS go to outboard brakes?
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Cool, are you going to do anything on the front, in my experience and that of the Irish rally car there was a heavy brake imbalance front to rear. If part of you're plan is for alternative wheels, I'm wondering if it's worth looking into getting the complete Jaguar front hubs and brakes too and seeing if there's any inter-changeability there, as the big Jaguar 4 pot calipers fit the Rover upright, maybe the hubs could fit with different bearings? Yep, you've read my mind. Better front brakes with vented discs will be a start. My car is missing the Australian market chassis strengthening plates as well so I want to do that at the same time. Hmmm, I didn't know that the Jag calipers went onto the p6 upright. Interdasting. I have access to cluey people that can make hubs etc (at a price), so I was hoping to be able to "narrow" the hub or something as well which would allow a more RWD offset front wheel than the +30ish offset required at the moment (same goes for the back really). from the look of this: Nab the hub carriers + hubs, and use the rest of a normal jag IRS setup. Job jobbed Yes, that's what I'm sort of trying to figure out. Which bit do I use from an XJ6 and which bits do I use from the XJ40. XJ40's arent really around much in wrecking yards anymore (but XJ6 SI/III/III's are, go figure) so I need to sort of work out what I want and then source it. One of the guys at work is converting THREE jag/daimlers to outboard discs, all have Chev V8's in them. I'm sitting back quietly to see how it goes with it Yep, the big Jaguar 4 pots bolt on, I can't remember which bolts I used, as the caliper bolts are different between the 2000 and 3500. What the Jag caliper does is sit further out so larger discs will be needed, I used Land Rover Defender vented discs which just by chance are a near perfect fit, the disc protrudes about 0.5mm from the pad, only needed to run the grinder over the caliper body against the disc bell to clear. Braking power is vicious . If going for custom hubs, then all the better as I had to have mine skimmed to clear the disc adapters. Narrowing the Jaguar IRS to suit doesn't appear to be that big a job, well within the realms of a competent engineering workshop. I think the end choice of parts should be dictated by availability and best fit, the series XJ diff should be relatively easy to mount in he body especially if you need to make a custom cage, then the XJ40 hub carries have the appearance of being backwards compatible. If you were to be retaining the De Dion, then I'd suggest the XJ40 diff may be more suitable going by the apparent mounting points.
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sowen
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Aug 17, 2014 21:38:53 GMT
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It's really come along nicely now, love the switch panel! I will be eagerly awaiting the obligatory test run video
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Aug 16, 2014 13:29:16 GMT
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As long as you have the red V5 then all should be good left as is according to how I understand the system. Always worth keeping copies of any forms you've sent in with proof of postage if you can. When you're ready, insure as normal, pre-book mot then tax.
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sowen
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If it's been off the road since 1989 you won't be able to SORN it assuming they haven't changed the rules recently. SORN should only apply to vehicles which have been taken off the road from 1998.
Maybe worth phoning to confirm.
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sowen
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Ebay?
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Aug 15, 2014 21:17:52 GMT
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That looks schweeet, well done!
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Sump loveliness !!!sowen
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Aug 15, 2014 14:29:33 GMT
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Nice one! The simple things that can't be seen once fitted are often the most rewarding
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Cool, are you going to do anything on the front, in my experience and that of the Irish rally car there was a heavy brake imbalance front to rear. If part of you're plan is for alternative wheels, I'm wondering if it's worth looking into getting the complete Jaguar front hubs and brakes too and seeing if there's any inter-changeability there, as the big Jaguar 4 pot calipers fit the Rover upright, maybe the hubs could fit with different bearings?
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