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Aug 29, 2010 17:24:41 GMT
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I wonder what? If any thing has been done to the internals of the engine? I can't imagine that there are many tuning parts available off the shelf! Is it possible to get that kind of power from a standard engine with loads of boost and some kind of management chip/remap? Have a look at the engine tuning section of www.superturbodiesel.com/ Apparently the internals of the Turbo 24V OM606 Merc engine don't need to be touched for 400bhp. What they mainly seem to do is fit the a modified version of the non electronic injection pump from the OM603 turbo engine and then a huge turbo or even turbo + supercharger. I'm new to diesels but I just bought an E300 Merc myself to use the OM606 engine in a Jaguar Series 2. I'm going to try and keep the standard electronic pump - it's a daily driver so I don't need 400bhp. I just need to figure out all the ECU wiring etc.
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Aug 25, 2010 19:42:14 GMT
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Have you seen this one - also diesel + turbocharged + supercharged
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Aug 22, 2010 10:57:48 GMT
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I did it with Frosts kit. Basically (for black flock) it's some black coloured glue which you paint onto the surface. Then the flock is blown onto the glue with a squeezy bottle. The squeezy bottle part is the part that could be improved - it tried it with a small spray gun type sandblasting pot but that didn't work. Like was said you really need the electrastatic charge to get the professional finish but the diy one is not too bad. Make sure to do it with a plastic sheet behind so that you can catch all the flock that doesn;t stick and re-cycle it. Here's a picture of my dashboard done with it.
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Jul 29, 2010 23:44:06 GMT
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Ha ha Nice Caddy.
Don't think I'll be going the Cummins route for this car though. Want as much refinement as possible.
The car arrived today - delivered to my door so I was a bit anxious coming home from work to see what I had bought.
I was unbevievalby happy to find it is practically mint. It really does look as good in the flesh as it does in the picture on my first post. The car was rustproofed by one of the original owners and it did a good job.
I can't believe how mint the sills are - even the sill end plates are original and rock solid! ;D The only bit of rust is just a little around both headlights. I'm feeling even more guilty about ripping the V12 out now but it has to be done.
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Jul 28, 2010 23:45:32 GMT
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I'll have a '96 318tds touring for sale when I get my Jag converted to diesel. 46mpg average so far. ;D
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Jul 28, 2010 23:25:12 GMT
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rd28t is definately top. 5cyl spinter/musso lump not too far behind bmw 2.5 3rd the old OM60x is rare now and very expensive but a good engine. anyway there is one easy to run engine with auto box on it that you can get for about £200 now. Cummins 4bt used in Optare metroliners, and MCWs I think. rarely make above scrap value. strip engine and box out and away you go. no complicated electrics either. think the 6bt be a bit of a squeeze. Hi w201lorinser - I think I'd better do some googling - I have no idea what Optare metroliners, and MCWs are at all - I'm guessing some sort of digger or something
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Jul 28, 2010 23:19:37 GMT
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OK Lots to think about there - this is a great forum for this kind of thing I didn't know there was another twin cam diesel in the W202 - another one to research. I had been aware of the Ssangyong's - they're not all that common over here I think and those that are being broken are usually being sold on the back of having a Merc engine. Probably cheaper for me to buy a whole BMW or Merc. (The high tax on large engines makes these depreciate big time when they get older.) Something like this would probably be bought cheaper than asking price - cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1403218. Non turbo though so I'm not sure how quick or powerful they are. I really need to drive a few of these suggested donors to get an idea of what they feel like. I did buy Classic Monthly this month specifically for that article on the Vauxhall / BMW engined XJS. It was an OK job although the sump looked a bit too low. Interesting that the guy that converted it said he'd go for the 3.0 or bgger if he was to convert one again.
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This looked a nice car...it was on ebay wasnt it? I was bidding on it before I got mine, seemed a really nice car for the money! Just be sure to check the usual rust spots on these (chassis legs at the front, radiator cross member and rear radius arm monuts) other than that annythin else will be quite easy to fix. IIRC it was a V12 wasnt it? Seems a shame to rip that out...but you'll make a lot of your purchase price back if you do. As its an early V12 it'll be Pre-HE, so it has the flat heads...and produces much more power (less mpg) than the later cars. Kit car people want these A LOT! As for the Diesel...Modern-ish BMW or Merc would be my choice as well...used to lugging a big car around, plenty of spares..and decent torque figures. Plus, a lot of the are already RWD so saves a lot of messing around. Thanks for all the feedback folks - it's really helpful. Yeah it was on ebay and yes it's a V12. I know what you are saying about ripping the V12 - I have a slight hesitation in doing that but if the car is as good as described then I'd be looking for while for a suitable 6 cylinder one. Anyway I already have a Daimler Double Six coupe (restoration project at the moment but a it's a really original car) to satisfy my V12 want ;D I might even keep the V12 so that car can be converted back if ever needed in the future. I'm also going to be putting an XJR6 supercharged engine and manual box into another XJC (well it's a Daimler coupe as well actually). Everything is lined up for that but that's another story.... I had not considered the VAG V6 too much due to not coming in RWD format but i might investigate more options on that. I believe it's not supposed to be the most reliable engine though . Now the V10 would be awesome - but I have to be realistic - that's not going to happen anytime soon. Brian Damaged thanks for the feedback on the Nissan engine - I will investigate that further. A J engine should hopefully mean lots of reliability too. Rich - the Jag autobox is definitely going. I am still 50/50 about auto vs manual. The coupe that is getting the XJR6S engine is already a manual but I can see that the auto pedal box castings are pretty similar to the manual ones as well so it would just be a case of drilling the mounting for the clutch mater cylinder & mounting the pedal I think.
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Jul 27, 2010 20:56:23 GMT
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I posted on here recently about looking for a Series 2 or series 3 Jag to put a diesel engine into for daily driving duties. Well I've found a '79 Series 2 in a nice seventies brown colour so part 1 of the project is on the way. Now I'm looking for input on what diesel engine you folks would recommend - I have some ideas myself - my initial choices are 1) The 2.5 or 3.0 TDS straight 6 BMW's (although I think the 3.0 might be a bit more complicated on the electronics front - not a huge problem for me but I don't want this to turn into a long term project due to having to research too much on elusive wiring diagrams etc..) 2) Second engine choice is something from the Mercedes stable. I really know nothing about Merc's but web searching has turned up promising info on the reputation of the OM606 range of engines (in turbo format) Any inputs on the above choices? (please don't tell me I shouldn't be putting a diesel in a Jag - I already know that - at least I'm putting it back on the road instead of it rotting away) There are a few guidelines I want to stick to - it must be relatively modern - not interested in heavy tank like engines from Nissan Patrols etc. I'd like as much refinement as possible. It needs to be pretty reasonable to buy - e.g I've seen complete BMW 525TDS' advertised here in Ireland recently for less than €500 and Merc E300's for not much more. I also still haven't decided whether to keep the car automatic or convert to manual but I guess I'll be influenced a bit by what engine / gearbox donors pop up. I'm generally not a auto fan but in something like a Jag with a big lazy torquey engine it could be OK. Any (constructive) inputs? Here's a picture of the motor - I haven't actually seen it in the flesh yet - took a chance so I hope it's not a rotter. It's on it's way from the UK to Ireland on a transporter as we speak ...hopefully.
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Jul 25, 2010 23:01:14 GMT
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The T-series wouldn't be that readily available over here but I'd say it is a big heavy old lump anyway.
I want to keep it normally aspirated. I know the K series has a bad rep but reading up on it, it's an engine with a lot of potential.
t-series to me is a generation older. Only real advantage I see is it would probably bolt up to the MG box but I'm not using that anyway.
If I don't use a K series my other choices in mind are the Zetec SE from the Puma or maybe a Duratec (Yes there is a common theme here - all have alloy blocks - power to weight is always at the back of my mind.)
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Jul 25, 2010 18:22:17 GMT
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I meant to reply to this thread ages ago when people were asking about the colour. I remember from teh feature in Retro Ford that they said the colour was a Saab colour. Can't remember what it was called though.
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Jul 25, 2010 18:02:46 GMT
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Yeah it's nice to see something different with an MGB alright. They are cars I never liked but now I find I own a roadster and possibly next week will have a '67 MGB GT to add to that.
The reason I have turned on to them is exactly as you say - I want to do something diffreent with them - hence why I trawl teh net looking for ideas.
Current thoughts for teh roadster are:
making it as lightweight as possible but strengthened with some hidden roll cage touches in the sills and centre tunnel possibly tied into 2 roll over hoops behind the seats.
Modern 4 pot engine (I know it has been done before but I am currently thinking K series to stay with the family)
5 speed box
Modern suspension set up - currently thinking about compllete MX5 front and rear set ups. I want this to handle well.
Interior with influencess from the Mazda MX5 speedster concept (google it)
Body wise it will be getting some sort of wide arches - preferably in steel or aluminium - probably not Sebring ones as these just don't look right to me especially at the front.
What do you think?
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Jul 22, 2010 10:01:34 GMT
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thinking BMW 2.5 tds or Merc turbodiesel. I have a real love for the bmw unit PROPERLY MAINTAINED, as in not in the typical irish fashion, but as a german would, they will do great mpg, have great power and last for hundreds of thousands of miles, last one we had still gets used by the new owner and should have 300k on it by january. we sold it at 250-ish thousand 2 years ago. Another conversion that's been done to jags before and to landrovers it the Isuzu 2.8td motor (this is the good one, the unbreakable one, not the 99 on 3litre that had the problems) the 3.1 is good enough to but i'd trust a 2.8 more, and so do many in the know, with late 90s/ealtu 00s 3.1s and 3.0's having been convertred to the tough and hardworking 2.8. To get the best power find a J import one with the intercooler. Daihatsu's 2.8 TD from the fourtrak is similar in nature, but if you a little "soft" when it comes to diesels, and I mean that non offensively you did say you're not a diesel fan, then you may be a bit scared off by them being pretty industrial and considerable more crude and a bit noisier than the likes of the bmw unit or mid 90s merc units, they would , however, repay you with tough and faithful service. it is maybe worth considering though. damn should have done a multi quote, forgot, sorry Good to hear some positive feedback on the 2.5tds BMW engine. It seems to get a lot of bad press but it is one of the most common straight six diesel car engines available for reasonable money. I do currently use a 318tds as a daily (it's smaller brother and it's OK - just underpowered down low in the revs) No offence taken on the diesel comments - I'm a petrolhead at heart and money no object I'd be driving petrol everywhere but I must get sensible sometime I do appreciate the massive gobs of torque from a good diesel though. I hear what you ar saying about the 4X4 engines but I would definitely stick with the most refined car sourced engine I could find. The Merc and BMW ones are top of the list at present. I would really like to get my head around the TDV6 Jag engine though. These have a lot of electronic control but there is a company in the UK that has fitted one to a Defender so it can be done - see here www.bellautoservices.co.uk/pdf/TDV6-Defender-Build-25-07-09.pdf.
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Jul 19, 2010 19:28:02 GMT
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Hmm that is nice looking although I want a LWB one. That is a rather big lump of filler that came off the back arch though.
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Jul 18, 2010 23:02:52 GMT
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Thanks Richw82. If you do come acrss one then please drop me a line. Don't go out of your way though as this is currently at idea stage. I might then be as well off looking at what is available over here - cuts out the shipping or ferry costs as well. Generally though what is for sale over here is whatever someone has driven off the ferry from Holyhead and added a grand or 2 to teh purchase price.
Running as a daily on it's original engine is a non runner for me. Couldn't justify the fuel costs.
I'll get the petrol buzz from my Daimler Coupes if i ever get around to finishing starting ::)them.
I must look up the Jaguar Enthusiasts Magazine - thanks for the tip off on that.
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Jul 18, 2010 12:15:35 GMT
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Pity - I'll just keeplooking I guess. XJ40 not really an option over here. Post 1980 so the annual road tax if I put a 3.0 diesel in would be >€1000. That's why XJ40 can;t even be given away over here really - annual tax on a 4.0 is about €1600
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Jul 17, 2010 22:07:04 GMT
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I've been toying recently with converting a Jag XJ series 2 or series 3 to diesel for daily driving duties.
However when I've been looking in the usual places (i.e. mainly Ebay.co.uk) there seems to be a distinct lack of cheap but solid pre 1980 XJ's. ( I want pre 1980 for cheap tax benefits here in Ireland. I think for daily driving my ideal would be a series 3 but these were only introduced in 1979 I think so I can understand how these are a bit rarer)
Where have they all gone? A year or two ago there was loads on ebay for a grand or less that were still MOT'd and semi respectable looking?
As regards the conversion to diesel. I'm not really a diesel fan so I want to use a modern lump to get some sort of decent performance - thinking BMW 2.5 tds or Merc turbodiesel. I'd love to try fitting the TDV6 from the modern Jags or Land Rovers but these are still a bit pricey to pick up I think (aside from the elctronic control challenges with one of these).
PS Before anyone suggests it LPG is not really an option in Ireland.
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Jul 11, 2010 10:23:00 GMT
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ANy more info on this one - what car is it?
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Jul 11, 2010 10:17:21 GMT
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Anyone know what these arches are - brand name or where they be available? Thinking about a set for an MGB roadster
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