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Dec 18, 2010 20:19:36 GMT
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I've got a sound '72 Range Rover rolling chassis with rotten body sitting in the drive so I'm looking for inspiration for a rebody. This has caught my eye www.autoreflex.com/rolls-royce-le-4x4--ACT644.htmMaybe not such a silly idea as even our local scrap year (F W McGuinesses, Longport, Stoke-on-Trent) had a Silver Shadow in the general yard last year. Paul H Am I the only one going to say no don't do it? 2 door Range Rovers are getting too rare now. If you really feel the need just chop up a 4 door one Fix up the 2 door. Heard this loads of times before and it's getting a little monotonous seeing I've explained the situation several times before Rear of the shell was totally rotten and beyond repair. Massively bodged in past so nothing left even to use as pattern. NO repair panels now available. Company who made them closed down after being bought by rival so just genuine or NOS pattern that are getting VERY expensive. Buying another sound shell would simply means another 2 door being scrapped so Catch 22 and no advantage to the number of original 2 doors in original condition. I'm therefore left with a sound rolling chassis but no body. My car and my choice what I do with it. Might sound rude but I get fed up with people saying "save" have yet have no idea of costs involved nor difficulty sourcing them. If someone said soemthing constructive like "save - and I have all the bits you need at reasonable prices" then I'd listen but now get fed up of hearing just "save" There are far more 2 door Rangies out there than many other cars that doesn't stop people modifiying or even banger racing them Paul H BTW I did try selling but all I got was chancers trying to buy for scrap money so the "savers" had their chance to "put their money where there mouth is" and now it's my turn to do what I want with it
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Dec 18, 2010 20:32:19 GMT
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^^^^^ I do not usually get into the fray, but there with you all the way Paul.
So, are you going to do it ?
Would look good next to BiAS's Honzuki Shitara at RRG'11.
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Dec 18, 2010 20:39:33 GMT
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Am I the only one going to say no don't do it? 2 door Range Rovers are getting too rare now. If you really feel the need just chop up a 4 door one Fix up the 2 door. Heard this loads of times before and it's getting a little monotonous seeing I've explained the situation several times before Rear of the shell was totally rotten and beyond repair. Massively bodged in past so nothing left even to use as pattern. NO repair panels now available. Company who made them closed down after being bought by rival so just genuine or NOS pattern that are getting VERY expensive. Buying another sound shell would simply means another 2 door being scrapped so Catch 22 and no advantage to the number of original 2 doors in original condition. I'm therefore left with a sound rolling chassis but no body. My car and my choice what I do with it. Might sound rude but I get fed up with people saying "save" have yet have no idea of costs involved nor difficulty sourcing them. If someone said soemthing constructive like "save - and I have all the bits you need at reasonable prices" then I'd listen but now get fed up of hearing just "save" There are far more 2 door Rangies out there than many other cars that doesn't stop people modifiying or even banger racing them Paul H BTW I did try selling but all I got was chancers trying to buy for scrap money so the "savers" had their chance to "put their money where there mouth is" and now it's my turn to do what I want with it I've just looked again at what I've wrote and appologise if anyone is offended as I might come across a bit too strongly. It's just I get frustrated by people suggesting something I cann't afford to do (around £5-7000 to properly restore with me doing all the work so no labour charges), be able to obtain parts anyway, aren't prepared to buy off me for sensible price and at the end of the day it's my vehicle to do with as I wish. I see loads of peoples modifications and alterations to otherwise mint looking really rare vehicles and all they get is comments like "awesome" yet I suggest changing the body on a common rotten Range Rover and I get the opposite Paul H
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Dec 18, 2010 20:53:31 GMT
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Heard this loads of times before and it's getting a little monotonous seeing I've explained the situation several times before Rear of the shell was totally rotten and beyond repair. Massively bodged in past so nothing left even to use as pattern. NO repair panels now available. Company who made them closed down after being bought by rival so just genuine or NOS pattern that are getting VERY expensive. Buying another sound shell would simply means another 2 door being scrapped so Catch 22 and no advantage to the number of original 2 doors in original condition. I'm therefore left with a sound rolling chassis but no body. My car and my choice what I do with it. Might sound rude but I get fed up with people saying "save" have yet have no idea of costs involved nor difficulty sourcing them. If someone said soemthing constructive like "save - and I have all the bits you need at reasonable prices" then I'd listen but now get fed up of hearing just "save" There are far more 2 door Rangies out there than many other cars that doesn't stop people modifiying or even banger racing them Paul H BTW I did try selling but all I got was chancers trying to buy for scrap money so the "savers" had their chance to "put their money where there mouth is" and now it's my turn to do what I want with it I've just looked again at what I've wrote and appologise if anyone is offended as I might come across a bit too strongly. It's just I get frustrated by people suggesting something I cann't afford to do (around £5-7000 to properly restore with me doing all the work so no labour charges), be able to obtain parts anyway, aren't prepared to buy off me for sensible price and at the end of the day it's my vehicle to do with as I wish. I see loads of peoples modifications and alterations to otherwise mint looking really rare vehicles and all they get is comments like "awesome" yet I suggest changing the body on a common rotten Range Rover and I get the opposite Paul H Ha ha don't worry about offending me. Although perhaps keep in mind that if you ask for opinions on the web then be prepared to at least get one person that disagrees with you. I guess I'm not seeing your agrument as regards panels etc costing £7000. Half the steel panels on a Range Rover are flat or angled so a lot of them can be made yourself for the cost of sheet steel and some time. Sticking a Roller body on it is going to cost as much as it would to restore properly I'd say - but like you said it's you car so off you go and best of luck with it. If you are scrapping the body let me know if the rear side window slides & runners are sound and how much you want for them ;D
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Dec 18, 2010 21:29:01 GMT
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I've just looked again at what I've wrote and appologise if anyone is offended as I might come across a bit too strongly. It's just I get frustrated by people suggesting something I cann't afford to do (around £5-7000 to properly restore with me doing all the work so no labour charges), be able to obtain parts anyway, aren't prepared to buy off me for sensible price and at the end of the day it's my vehicle to do with as I wish. I see loads of peoples modifications and alterations to otherwise mint looking really rare vehicles and all they get is comments like "awesome" yet I suggest changing the body on a common rotten Range Rover and I get the opposite Paul H Ha ha don't worry about offending me. Although perhaps keep in mind that if you ask for opinions on the web then be prepared to at least get one person that disagrees with you. I guess I'm not seeing your agrument as regards panels etc costing £7000. Half the steel panels on a Range Rover are flat or angled so a lot of them can be made yourself for the cost of sheet steel and some time. Sticking a Roller body on it is going to cost as much as it would to restore properly I'd say - but like you said it's you car so off you go and best of luck with it. If you are scrapping the body let me know if the rear side window slides & runners are sound and how much you want for them ;D I'm not serious about a Roller body but would consider something more common in scrap yards like XJ40, Merc, etc for the fun aspect. To abide by DVLA rules the chassis would be left 100% original so easy to swop for a 2 door shell if I ever found one worth restoring at a later date. To restore properly costs a lot of money. It's not just panels. Even so try pricing up 2 door panels (if you can find them from normal sources other than "word of mouth" or via eBay for clearance items) and you might understand some of my costings. Making non standard out of flat sections isn't restoring in my opinion so not really a option for me. It's OK remaking a replica panel if you have an original to start off with but I don't so I've nowhere to start. The side windows were damaged (grinder scars / scratches) and runners crumbled away. Even the catches were knackered. I did try to save anything viable but there was absolutley nothing worth the effort. In the past someone had tried to "update". There were plates on top of rotten plates three thick in places and the gaps filed with 2" of filler and even massive amounts of silicon ! The roof was like a sieve with holes all over, leaking / broken catches sunroof plus big dents all covered with flaking vinyl suck on with silicon. The outer wing panels at rear were corroded and again layer of filler. These have been kept as possibly worth repairing. The doors are cracked and filled but again saved. Bulkhead sides rotten but savable. A posts were virtually none existant despite several previous bodged welds. There were nearly 2" of washer as spacers on one side under the hinge to make up the difference due to collapsing A post. EVERYBODY who has seen it, both (independant) Land Rover dealers that have been to my house for other reasons (I've been clearing out my two lock-ups of parts) and other enthusiasts agree body beyond repair no matter how much money you chuck it so better to start with a less rotten / bodged example. This is not my first Range Rover (I've had another early 2 door and a 4 door - as well a 3 x SIIA, 2 x SIII, Defender and Discovery as well as Jeep CJ5 and Fourtrack) but is the worse body condition I've seen outside a scrapyard. Paul H
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