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Alright mate,
Just my two penneth but i'm not sure the two pics you've posted respond to what you've mentioned in the brief. The images seem to suggest some conceptual meaning beyond that of documenting the car enthusiast in their environment. Its a little confusing. To me the images suggest the people in cars have something on their mind. I'm not really focussing on the relationship between the car and the person.
Edit: Just looking back at the photo's again, I don't see any kind of bond or relationship between the car and the person. They seem like very detached objects.
ps I like your scrappage scheme project.
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Last Edit: Dec 6, 2010 18:15:19 GMT by 8bitash
1970 Porsche 911E 2002 Porsche Boxster S 2002 Peugeot Partner 1.9sdi
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Alright mate, Just my two penneth but i'm not sure the two pics you've posted respond to what you've mentioned in the brief. The images seem to suggest some conceptual meaning beyond that of documenting the car enthusiast in their environment. Its a little confusing. To me the images suggest the people in cars have something on their mind. I'm not really focussing on the relationship between the car and the person. Edit: Just looking back at the photo's again, I don't see any kind of bond or relationship between the car and the person. They seem like very detached objects. ps I like your scrappage scheme project. i'd be up for this dude, got a B3 Passat estate, soon to be lowered, maybe pics of me pinstriping aswell if you wanted??
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Its a genuine critique mate from someone who's got experience. Photography is a harsh industry and what i've written was just some friendly advise.
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tri
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Edit: Just looking back at the photo's again, I don't see any kind of bond or relationship between the car and the person. They seem like very detached objects.. I hate to say it, but I've gotta agree there. Something didn't sit right, and that's what it is. In both pictures, the guys are looking out of their cars. Straight ahead, out of the windscreen. ..looks like it's on purpose, but I don't get the relevance. It seems like they should be outside looking in, or at least inside..looking in. Just my 2p. Not that it means much as I'm better at critiquing than I am at doing
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I forgot how to retro...
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Felix
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Wow, it's really exciting to see such a big response! I'll get in touch with each of you if I can get to where you are easily! I looked up a lot of National Express routes yesterday to see just how far I can go! Thanks also for the critique 8bitash & tri, I appreciate it. Please don't shy away anyone if you have suggestions. As for the way in which I've photographed the owner, it's something I have put a lot of thought into the last few weeks. Without the owner, the images didn't satisfy the documentary element enough in my opinion. By photographing them the manner in which I have, it avoids the classic big cheque style photograph or smiling owner with their car. Likewise, I didn't want this to be a glorified person at work series. Certainly in our year group, the documentary work being produced is moving towards a more conceptual grounding, and I've chosen to include these sensitivities in my project. I don't feel the need to explicitly show the connection between owner and car. There's a deeper metaphor there, if not everyone can see it, fine. At least my tutors can, and they're the ones marking it. I've been seduced by the work of Gregory Crewdson and Jeff Wall whilst at University, perhaps some of their images will show you where I'm coming from? Lastly, not too much of an excuse, but don't put too much weight on the words at the moment, I wanted to write something concise for the thread and often write my synopsis after working through most of the practical side. Cheers, Felix
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Cool, Your reply is almost exactly what I saw in the images. I guessed you had researched the likes of Jeff Wall and tried to apply it to the retro scene. For me it doesn't sit right. I don't see the relationship to the Retro car and the subject. For me the repetition of the modded retro car in the images will just confuse what might me an interesting set of pictures. Intrigue should come naturally in documentary rather than set up.
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Seth
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Another Londoner here if you fancy trying to get a few of us on one trip.
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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I'm near Bolton if you fancy taking some shots of me and my Chevette
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maybe it would be worth you coming to the gathering next year?
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I'm in llanelli south wales, i am welding a mates imp at the moment and have a husky in t6he background and a singer chamois on a tilter. will be working on it for about 2 weeks. also have a 82 celica notchback.
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too many cars so little time. hello boss i have a problem- work is getting in the way of my hobby.
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Felix
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Dec 12, 2010 22:24:22 GMT
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Well on Saturday I went against everything my parents have told me, after arranging to meet a man from the internet before getting in the back of a rather imposing Delica! Fortunately I ended up at Area 52. It was great to meet some of you, sadly I wasn't of too much use apart from wiping down Hustlers. Here's another photo, this time of Hardcore and his Mercedes: I've a lot more shoots lined up in the coming week which is excellent, and I'm already having Area 52 inspired modification ideas, even before car ownership!
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Dec 12, 2010 22:36:24 GMT
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Hardcore pic looks ace, it has a really spooky feel to it
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Welder, fabricator, general resto work
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Roobeh
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nice shot! was the lighting done with actual lights or multiple exposures and photoshop?
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More than willing to offer you some black and red eccentricity. Would probably be at the top secret Lincolnshire location where the car is now, lots of bits of weird old farm stuff and of course the landscape of the fens. There's a slim chance that the location could be changed to Sheffield some time in the first couple of weeks of January, depending on what I'm doing.
If you're relying on public transport, the Lincolnshire location is a bit of a curse word to get to (speaking from personal experience) but I'm sure something could be sorted out. I'm next due up there on the weekend of the 14th of January if that's not too late for your project?
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Dec 13, 2010 12:47:50 GMT
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another london offer - hopefully you get to do loads and make a visit of it
mk1 escort here
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Felix
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Dec 19, 2010 20:36:27 GMT
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Thanks for all the other offers too! I think I'll have to plan a day in London in the New Year! I'll be able to photograph relatively stress free until the start of February. A few days ago I went to photograph Aled in Llanelli with his Celica and Imps, it's one of my favourite images so far! Shame that the weather is now disrupting progress!
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Dec 20, 2010 12:36:58 GMT
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Wow, Felix! I managed to miss this somehow.. Benz looks great (except my ugly mug ) and is was really interesting talking to you about the techniques you were using - thanks for taking the time to let me have a play, I have a lot to learn! I hope you enjoyed your trip to Area 52 - you should bring that car of yours to a playday in the New Year if you're free, we've got plenty of lowering sticks All the best with the project - I look forward to seeing more of your photos!
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Dec 20, 2010 13:36:06 GMT
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another one plotted up in lincolnshire if it makes your trip more worthwhile, I work on the bus route away from lincoln station if you still need transport.
My rides are 2 citroen axs on my folk's drive one on axlestands.
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Dec 21, 2010 22:12:50 GMT
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nice to meet you, the pic looks really good. the porche looks like a good buy, see you around the shows in the summer.
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too many cars so little time. hello boss i have a problem- work is getting in the way of my hobby.
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Dom
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Dec 21, 2010 22:20:19 GMT
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For me, nothing's more of an "I love my ride" shot than a guy leaning against the worktop with a cuppa, admiring his work.
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