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Nov 23, 2010 14:22:09 GMT
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I'm looking at saving a few quid and thinking about fitting my own tyres. The rims are 13x7" and the tyres have quite a big sidewall at 175-70-13. Can this be done at home with a couple of tyre levers and a compressor? If you've done it before and have any useful tips, could you please add them? I've had a search on forum but couldnt find anything. If there is enough advice, could this go in the tips/advice section? Thanks all. Quick pick of my new rims before DIY painting tomorrow...
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Copey
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Nov 23, 2010 14:23:27 GMT
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just don't bother, you wont get them balanced at all and you will get a shed load of wheel wobble
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1990 Ford Sierra Sapphire GLSi with 2.0 Zetec 1985 Ford Capri 3.0 (was a 2.0 Laser originally)
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Foxy
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Making pink manly in the north!
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Nov 23, 2010 14:26:54 GMT
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^^ what Tom said, plus I hope you're going to be keeping them rims pink! ;D
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I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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Lawsy
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Nov 23, 2010 14:42:58 GMT
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Nov 23, 2010 14:59:09 GMT
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Don't even try it.Just go and find a small tyre place (ie not a big chain like kwick fit) and see if they will fit them for you.Will be about £5 a wheel.Try a find a time when there not busy and someone might do you a deal for cash in hand.
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Nov 23, 2010 15:09:03 GMT
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I've a manual tyre changer and wouldn't even think about using it on alloy rims (unless they were being weighed in !). Proper tyre fitter every time for alloys.
Paul H
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Dez
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Fitting your own tyres...?Dez
@dez
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Nov 23, 2010 15:18:01 GMT
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what a load of rubbish.
every tyre on every rim ive ever owned has been fitted by hand. thats must be 1000s of wheels. ive never damaged a wheel or tyre, never had them leak, and probably 3/4 of them have never been balanced as theyve not given a descernable vibration or wobble when fitted to the car. (right now I'm running a set of bandeds i know arent straight, but you cant tell when driving it)i only get em balanced if they do- which a tyre place will do for practically nothing as theres less effort involved than changing a tyre.
me doing it this was partially came out of neccessity- i find your average tyre fitter is only one step up from a monkey who can play the cymbals, and is incapable of fitting a tyre with a tube without damaging it, if they even know you can get tyres with tubes. or cant do seriously low profiles. i had one place flatly refuse to try to put a 165/50r15 on a 4.5j rim as it was 'impossible to fit'. my mate whos rims they were then took them somewhere else who had a rep for being able to do low pros, etc. who promptly ripped the bead and chunked the wheel. i did it by hand in 10 mins without a scrape on the rim or tyre.
also, if you abuse tyres, drifting, trackdays etc, you soon learn to change your own as it saves you literally hundreds of quids in a year!!
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Fitting your own tyres...?HARDCORE
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Nov 23, 2010 15:23:53 GMT
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Dez - I'd be interested to know the easiest way to do it & what tools are required please
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Nov 23, 2010 15:29:02 GMT
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^^^ this.
I do my own tyres by hand and have no problems either. I havent had anything balanced for a very long time as they rarely give any vibrations. A little patience, some good quality tyre levers and its easy enough to do without damaging the rims. Use plenty of lube on inner and outer edges of each bead - something that will not attack rubber. Fairly liquid will do at a push, but its not good on polished alloys with no lacquer.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Dez
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Fitting your own tyres...?Dez
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Nov 23, 2010 15:32:20 GMT
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andy, ive got some to do towards the end of the week, once ive painted them. they big ol crossplies with tubes, but the principles are the same , so ile do a how-to then
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Nov 23, 2010 15:38:13 GMT
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My way.... Break the bead with a long bar, a wedge of wood and something the lever against. There are plenty other ways to break a bead - I currently like to use the bucket of the excavator Soap it up, then get busy with the levers, working your way around in small steps. 3 are nice but its possible with two. Once one bead is over, dive in and latch under the second side. tadaaaa Soap up the bead on the new tyre. Lacking proper lube on this day, I used a bar of soap and little water. Lever over the first edge... Then the final side.... Higher profiles like these were just slip on and off quite easily, but low-pro' go on and off in exactly the same manner, just takes a teeny bit more care. Edited to say...I am sure there are "right" and "wrong" ways to use that style of lever, but I go with whatever end in whatever direction gets me the purchase I need to lever the re without damage. I may even use them in a different manner on other tyres or rims.
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Last Edit: Nov 23, 2010 15:41:38 GMT by dave21478
1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Fitting your own tyres...?HARDCORE
@hardcore
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Nov 23, 2010 15:42:44 GMT
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Legend ;D Also, I've never had tyres with tubes before ('cept on a bicycle ) what's the 401 on them? I've got some 13x10 bandeds that I want to run kitten-killer stretch on & they've got extra 'valve holes' already drilled mid-dish..
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Copey
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Nov 23, 2010 15:45:15 GMT
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Hardcore, i got told that i couldnt run tubes with my bandeds
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1990 Ford Sierra Sapphire GLSi with 2.0 Zetec 1985 Ford Capri 3.0 (was a 2.0 Laser originally)
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Nov 23, 2010 15:48:50 GMT
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I would want the extra valve holes welded up anyway. I'm running banded steels on my lawnmower. No really, I am but for complicated reasons rather than style. I found the tubes tended to balloon out of the extra valve holes and would pop after a few hours, so welded them up and is been fine since. As for fitting them to car tyres, I wouldnt like to say, Its not something I have done for a long, long time. iirc it involved a very large amount of talcum powder, but other will advise better than me.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Nov 23, 2010 16:45:56 GMT
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Always put my own tyres on by hand even 45 profiles if you put enough soap on the tire you can get them most of the way on and just tap the last of the bead with a rubber mallet , this is a video of me removing a tyre by hand
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Nov 23, 2010 17:58:23 GMT
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The white stuff tyre places put on is soap I think? I saw a program the other night where someone put that white stuff on, and just launched the tyre on the wheel and it went on. I'd love to know a way of doing it properly DIY, as I can just buy my own tyres then.
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Nov 23, 2010 18:09:08 GMT
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Enjoying this thread.
Rims are only gonna be 'rough' until they stop putting salt on the roads, so I fancy doing the tyres myself.
Next stop is going to be finding some levers...
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Colonelk
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Nov 23, 2010 18:19:20 GMT
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Ive found it takes a little care not to damage the rim. I may go back to doing it by hand as every time I use my local garages tyre machine (they let me at it haha) I normally cock it up!
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Nov 23, 2010 20:08:28 GMT
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Unless you have lots to do on the cheap its definitely not worth it. I can fit and remove tyres by hand with my manual changer, but these days I don't have a couple of hours to spend doing it so I tend to pop down the local tyre fitters and hand them a £20. The guys there know exactly what they're doing and do lots of 'nice' wheels and tyres for the BMW and VW boys.
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Nov 23, 2010 20:32:04 GMT
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You can buy a pneumatically operated tyre changer very cheaply(under £150) on the 'bay,which won't take too long to pay back or if your feeling flusher you can usually get a full on tyre shop job with balancer for around £300 second hand.
Personally I wouldn't be putting tyres on freshly refurbed rims until at least a day or two after the laquers been on,it'll chip like fook
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