Kieran
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Nov 15, 2010 20:26:07 GMT
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Talking to a couple of mates in the boozer last night and we came up with a challenge.
2 teams, £500 budget for car, £160 for mods / preperation.
Plan is a 3 day jaunt to the ring, one day getting there, a day playing and a day back.
Say £100 in the pot for quickest lap, most spectacular crash, most terminal breakdown etc.
Now, we did talk about maybe a 2 litre engine limit or maybe not, but whatcar would you take?
Thinking a 5 series BMW, smoking Jag, VX Omega or cavalier?
What you reckon?
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The Ashby Jackson fleet:-
1979 Mini Clubman 1.8 K series 1978 Skoda 110r Project 130RS K-oupe 1978 Austin Allegro 1500 SDL Estate 1984 BMW K100 Sidecar outfit 1999 Yamaha FZS 1000 Fazer 1991 Kawasaki ZXR400 race bike 2002 Kawasaki ZX9r race bike
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speedy88
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Nov 15, 2010 20:27:54 GMT
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Volvo 240 GLT.
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Nov 15, 2010 20:28:02 GMT
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I'd get a mk1 MR2. There's enough room in the front and back for stuff. You can buy an on the road one for 500 quid.
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Nov 15, 2010 20:29:20 GMT
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probably something honda myself, also the £100 fopr most spectacular crash will pay for about 1ft of armco!!
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yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
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Kieran
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Nov 15, 2010 20:39:46 GMT
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Good curve ball choice of cars there.
MR2 sounds cool but need to seat 3 people (2 teams of 3 see, hence the £660 total, £220 each...)
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The Ashby Jackson fleet:-
1979 Mini Clubman 1.8 K series 1978 Skoda 110r Project 130RS K-oupe 1978 Austin Allegro 1500 SDL Estate 1984 BMW K100 Sidecar outfit 1999 Yamaha FZS 1000 Fazer 1991 Kawasaki ZXR400 race bike 2002 Kawasaki ZX9r race bike
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Nov 15, 2010 20:49:46 GMT
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Sierra any good, as it will be comfortable, cheap, and rwd
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RobinJI
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Nov 15, 2010 20:49:55 GMT
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Metro with a 1.6/1.8 in it. My mates stripped out 1.6 one ran a 9:30 on budget tyres earlier in the year. Could easily be done in the budget, and lowering and stiffening the suspension is free if you can borrow a pump.
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Sammo
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Nov 15, 2010 21:33:39 GMT
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Talking to a couple of mates in the boozer last night and we came up with a challenge. 2 teams, £500 budget for car, £160 for mods / preperation. Plan is a 3 day jaunt to the ring, one day getting there, a day playing and a day back. Say £100 in the pot for quickest lap, most spectacular crash, most terminal breakdown etc. Now, we did talk about maybe a 2 litre engine limit or maybe not, but whatcar would you take? Thinking a 5 series BMW, smoking Jag, VX Omega or cavalier? What you reckon? Sounds like a great idea How about an old E30 shape 3 series??? Although a few things to keep in mind. Your car insurance probably wont cover you on the 'Ring. If you do crash you will be charged for any Armco barrier you damage (not cheap!). You will be charged for a recovery vehicle to come and get you (not cheap!) and if the crash is bad enough that the track has to be closed, you will be charged for money lost whilst recovering you from the barriers! This happened to a guy at work about a year ago. He totalled his car and ended up having to take out a loan to cover the costs of paying the 'ring, and having his car brought back to the UK.
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Nov 15, 2010 22:01:39 GMT
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Your well into volvo 850 t5 territory, with a £160 modifying budget you could get it up to 260bhp
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Nov 15, 2010 22:49:21 GMT
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how about a mk3 golf of some sort
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You want to get yourself a Ford Puma. When it came out it was pretty widely regarded as the best handling FWD car for a long time. The 1.7 is vvt with near on 125bhp and if you strip everything out it, it'll not weight anything and there'll be plenty room for your stuff.
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Jag XJ40, will get you there in super comfort and handle ok round the track with 3 people and your luggage still in it, super light stuff is ok but you will seriously dent the handling and performance with passengers and gear in them, a 4 litre jag wont even notice you in there, unless your planning on unloading the car for your track time you want something big and powerfull.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Good shout. That's what we used. ...but this is the best idea:
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2010 9:35:36 GMT by dbizzle
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Nov 16, 2010 12:02:09 GMT
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I know it doesn't meet your 'seat three' requirement, but I think you'd be able to an MGF with head gasket problems for ~£500. An easy fix for a lot less than £160.
Or as RobinJI a Metro/Rover 100 with a 1.6 or 1.8 lump dropped in. Given you're not too worried about longegity, you could probably get away with keeping the R65 gearbox rather than doing the full swap to the PG1 (which needs more effort). Lots of info on the swap on the Metropower forum.
Of course, if you can live with FWD a Rover 220/Tomcat turbo could be a giggle. Or for armchair comfort, a 600 turbo!
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rob0r
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Nov 16, 2010 12:10:43 GMT
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BMW E32 7 Series. You can get mint ones for £500 or less, 730i/735i straight six or the 730i/740i V8 or if you're really brave a 750i V12! Comfortable, solid, powerful, great value for money (more than the E34 5 IMO).
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E30 320i 3.5 - E23 730 - E3 3.0si - E21 316 M42 - E32 750i ETC
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Nov 16, 2010 13:06:49 GMT
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Could probably pick up a carlton gsi for that money... 3.0 6 pot and rwd , whats not to like? lol
That said i think id be going for something small. Like a 106 with chopped springs, Or a polo, civic somthing like that. Itll get ya there cheap , Itll run all day round the track and then get ya home for curse word all too. They are designed to be ragged round towns, So givin it some beans on the track wont hurt it. Where as big stuff like gsi's bimmers and jags are lazy cruisers that happen to have big engines. It doesnt nessicerally make them sporting in any way...
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Nov 16, 2010 14:59:05 GMT
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Last year I drove to the ring and did several laps in a Peugeot 306 XRDT that I bought for £300. I continued to use it for the rest of the year too.
This year I went in a Mondeo TD estate that I was given, though I did have to fit a new altenator, battery and exhaust to get it through an MOT. With the Mondeo we drove over three up and took our luggage, two tents an easyup and a fridge, though I emptied it before a 12 minute 11 second lap of comedy tyre squeel.
If I were buying something purely for a jolly like this it would be a 306/ZX or a 3-series. I hate BMWs with a passion but an E36 320 or bigger would be ideal and well within budget.
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Nov 16, 2010 15:17:56 GMT
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If you throw £500 my way, I could be tempted to let the Saab go, long ticket, turbo motor, goes like stink for a 21 year old car. See the for sale ads (Third page I think), not mint by any means, but good ring fodder.
I've driven it to Mid wales a couple of times, and Crewe and back loads, and down to West Brom a couple of weeks ago and never missed a beat. Just not getting driven at the minute so battery is going flat.
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Nov 16, 2010 15:24:49 GMT
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probably something honda myself, also the £100 fopr most spectacular crash will pay for about 1ft of armco!! That was my first thoughts, i actually was thinking Accord 2.0 or 2.2. Also the Volvo T5 came to mind too
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Nov 16, 2010 15:25:42 GMT
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Could probably pick up a carlton gsi for that money... 3.0 6 pot and rwd , whats not to like? lol That said I think id be going for something small. Like a 106 with chopped springs, Or a polo, civic somthing like that. Itll get ya there cheap , Itll run all day round the track and then get ya home for jolly pain in the backside all too. They are designed to be ragged round towns, So givin it some beans on the track wont hurt it. Where as big stuff like gsi's bimmers and jags are lazy cruisers that happen to have big engines. It doesnt nessicerally make them sporting in any way... have you driven an XJ40? take it easy on the motorway and it'll do 40mpg (admittedly that halves around town) and don't mistake comfort and size for a lack of prowess in the bendy bits. All Jags handle pretty well, thats a big part of what makes a Jag a Jag, i'd put a £500 quid jag up against a £500 106 all day long, the pug may feel nippy at town speeds but try a long sweeping bend at 80 or 90mph when its on its tyres and suspensions limits and drops to 80mph on every uphill road, an almost 2 ton 4 litre jag does 0-60 in 8 seconds and 140mph, they aint slow and they grip even over bumpy roads, plus no torque steer and better traction of the line. A big bimmer will be very similar, nippy round town and fast round a long track are not the same thing at all.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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