|
|
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:20:53 GMT
|
Hi guys, I need to get some wheels off a car, problem is they have locking wheels nuts and I don't have the key. They are the ones that have 3 holes set into them and a ring on the outside that just spins if you put anything on it. I've tryed hammering a socket on but the ring just spins. Tryed a chissel on the one hole, but there isn't enough surface to get it on properly. Can't weld a nut on because of how set back the nut is in the wheel. Any ideas chaps? Only thing I can think of is to drill them out, but don't fancy that. Or I could always do thisHave some pictures      |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:23:40 GMT
|
|
i have one of those universal sockets, its like a lod of spring loaded wires packed into a socket head[hope that makes sense] it cost me peanuts a few years ago, it hads removed many different locking wheelnuts over the years [with theowners consent of course!]
|
| |
yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
|
|
Copey
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,845
|
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:28:11 GMT
|
as above, multi fitment socket  failing that, hammer over a cheap socket |
| |
1990 Ford Sierra Sapphire GLSi with 2.0 Zetec
1985 Ford Capri 3.0 (was a 2.0 Laser originally)
|
|
joda
Part of things
Posts: 675
|
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:31:49 GMT
|
|
machine mart sell locking wheel nut removers
also mosst tyre shops should carry them, but will charge you to use them!
i have got them off using a odd size socket hammered into it, or even a key from another set again hammered into it!
|
| |
|
|
|
|
Removing locking wheel nuts?HARDCORE
@hardcore
Club Retro Rides Member 190
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:53:35 GMT
|
Before trying any of the above (perfectly reasonable) suggestions do the other 3 wheel nuts up good 'n tight to maximise the chance of it working  |
| |
|
|
`state
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 1,215
|
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:58:10 GMT
|
|
The above wont work as they`ll just spin on the collar,as thats what its there for! You need to get a small sharp chisel and whack the collar off,then whack a socket onto it.
Used to hate doing these types when i worked in the scrapyard but as hardcore says get the other 3 done up as tight as you can to take the pressure off the locker.
|
| |
Look at all the plastic people who live without a care.Try to sit with me around my table,but never bring a chair.
|
|
10mpg
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 4,253
Club RR Member Number: 204
|
Removing locking wheel nuts?10mpg
@10mpg
Club Retro Rides Member 204
|
Oct 25, 2010 22:59:24 GMT
|
|
I've drilled them out before, but the easiest way i've found it to drill 10 mm hole in it and whack a big stud extractor in.. simples..
|
| |
The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
|
|
|
|
Removing locking wheel nuts?BenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
|
Oct 25, 2010 23:10:14 GMT
|
Is there anywhere on the nut you can put a centre-punch to see if you can give it a smack to free it? Locking nuts shouldn't be torqued up all that much although many tyre places will just gun them up like normal nuts. Locking nut removal sockets are a lot cheaper than I thought - about £20 for a set. If the free options don't work, I'd just go buy a set. |
| |
Last Edit: Oct 25, 2010 23:16:19 GMT by BenzBoy
|
|
danneh
Part of things
Posts: 65
|
|
|
|
|
I tried the laser locking wheel nut removal tool from machine mart but the 2 sizes didnt fit once I had cut off the sliding collar. Irwin Bolt grippers did the job tho.
|
| |
Last Edit: Oct 26, 2010 6:01:56 GMT by danneh
2004 C2 - The Daily
1992 Shogun - The offroad toy
1991 MX5 - The new project
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2010 10:09:24 GMT
|
|
I've removed trilocks on a Mini before by first using a screwdriver to split the spinny collar off and then a big pair of mole grips on the exposed nut. The design of those lockers is so poor they're rarely that tight.
A few weeks later I found the locknut key. Grrrrrr.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2010 10:14:33 GMT
|
|
the universal socket isnt affected by the sliding collar , its the pins that slot ionto the holes on the nut that turn the nut [if you understand that you'll understand owt!!]
|
| |
yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
|
|
Dom
Part of things
Limey
Posts: 617
|
|
Oct 26, 2010 11:21:45 GMT
|
|
Is there a gap to fill the space inside the collar with metal chips and glue to stop it spinning separately?
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2010 12:14:38 GMT
|
|
The sliding collars chisel off easy enough. an 18mm socket fitted over the ones I took off, but the proper locking wheel nut removal tools (with a sharp, left handed thread on a taper inside them) work much better.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
Removing locking wheel nuts?BenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
|
Oct 26, 2010 12:21:52 GMT
|
Irwin Bolt grippers did the job tho. Those are great. The set I've got have got me out of many a bind, but mine don't go into big enough sizes for wheel nuts. I think there's an extension set with bigger sizes though. I suspect that locking nut removers work on the same principal, with left-handed teeth that dig into the head the more you twist. |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2010 12:34:18 GMT
|
left-handed teeth that dig into the head the more you twist. Yup, exactly that. Work best if you can at least get them started with an impact gun, they are a bit fiddly otherwise. |
| |
|
|
