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Mar 30, 2006 13:40:46 GMT
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Right we have been outside for over an hour now trying to get the dam thing off It seems not come off what so ever, any ideas? we have used chain wrenchs, strap ones, hammers, with screw drivers. any help would be good
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Mar 30, 2006 13:43:57 GMT
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Is it all mashed up now? That never helps.
Tool of choice surely is a strap wrench, I have yet to be defeated when I am armed with one of those fuggaz.
Is it tricky to get access to?
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Ed
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Mar 30, 2006 13:47:17 GMT
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didnt the long screwdriver through filter not work? beejesus! and neither a chain strap? feckit!
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Mar 30, 2006 13:49:42 GMT
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ive done a chain wrench, we have done a strap one, no acess there is loads of room to it, nothing seems to want to move the F*C*er and its really doing my head in.
Any ideas other then what we have done?
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stuck oil filtersBenzBoy
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Mar 30, 2006 13:50:45 GMT
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A long screwdriver rammed right thru it usually works. Having said that I've had the screwdriver start to tear through the filter casing when using that method. Plus, if space is tight it never helps
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Mar 30, 2006 13:51:56 GMT
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Is it now all Mullered or is it still complete and oil tight ?
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Mar 30, 2006 13:54:47 GMT
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no i havent mullered it just yet, I'm asking for advice before i get to the stange of killinng someone.
Its all nice and oil tight at the moment, just need to get the filter off.
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stuck oil filtersBenzBoy
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Mar 30, 2006 13:55:06 GMT
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I've never tried this, but what about buzzing a big nut on the bottom and turning it with a socket wrench? Dunno what metal these filters are made from - probably some crappy monkey metal that'll not weld. Just a thought.
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Mar 30, 2006 13:58:02 GMT
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they're super thin tin these filters, not too weldable I suspect. The screwdriver trick is not a good one either, if its tight you’ll just end up ripping it to bits.
I say stick with the strap wrench and bosh an extra-long handle on it somehow. Is it one of those which you use a ratchet handle to turn? Or has it got its own handle?
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Mar 30, 2006 13:58:17 GMT
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screwdriver stab works usually, except i only had one of those pound shop screw drivers at the time, it snapped under my popeye strength!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Mar 30, 2006 14:00:22 GMT
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well at the moment, its tapping a screw driver into to losen it from the car , see how that goes.
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Ed
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Mar 30, 2006 14:00:37 GMT
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the chain wrench is normally unstoppable! just tighten it when it starts to crush.....then it 'should' move.....
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stuck oil filtersDarrenW
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Mar 30, 2006 14:01:22 GMT
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Stabbing with a screwdriver has NEVER worked for me ;D I always end up with it all ripped everywhere, half the filter still stubbornly stuck on. I HAVE got them off by holding the screwdriver at an angle against the lip near where it mounts and tapping it with a hammer - sort of shocking/forcing it to turn round. Works after a while... Other than that, I dunno - I'm always an advocate of boiling water at times like this - pour a load over it and see if the expansion of the filter is enough to loosen it slightly
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Mar 30, 2006 14:01:53 GMT
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i dunno what type, it the one with a chain and a handle, the chain hocks onto the handle and you pull, and the same with the strap one.
Looks like a tapping of a screw driver works and we have it turning at last
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Stu
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Mar 30, 2006 14:03:11 GMT
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I've aways managed to get them off on VW's (it's on a Polo I take it?) with a chain wrench and/or a pair of good rubber gloves. I would try tightening it up slightly first then rocking it back and to in an effort to loosen it. If it's still oil tight and you haven't drained the oil from the sump yet would it be worth warming the car back up to see if that'll help? Suprised it didn't leak if it was that tight in the first place! Edit - too late, it's moving. I type too slow!
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Last Edit: Mar 30, 2006 14:04:48 GMT by Stu
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Mar 30, 2006 14:03:26 GMT
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blowtorch the answer to all my problems anyway ;D
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stuck oil filtersBenzBoy
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Mar 30, 2006 14:03:46 GMT
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I'm always an advocate of boiling water at times like this - pour a load over it and see if the expansion of the filter is enough to loosen it slightly I use a similar method, but I pour the water over a teabag and roll a ciggy. Solves everything, that! ;D
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Mar 30, 2006 14:15:36 GMT
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Yeah that a bu**er of a job on a Polo, cos its so tight between the front of the car, the exhaust manifold & alternator - best access is from underneath (and it may help to jack it up a bit) I ended up using a great big screw driver rammed all the way through the filter, but I had to do this a number of times because I could only turn the filter a bit at a time before the screwdriver handle fouled on a surrounding part of the car As Mr.B says it probably is best to try and use the proper tool, as my filter was a right mangled mess afterwards & could have quite easily still not come off + the sharp swarfs of metal produced could be very dangerous When you put your new filter on wipe a thin film of grease around the rubber gasket - this will make it easier to remove next time & help seal it too Oh & if using the stabbing screwdriver method make sure the screwdriver goes through nearer the top of the filter or you'll hit the thread on the way through.
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Mar 30, 2006 14:19:19 GMT
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i dunno what type, it the one with a chain and a handle, the chain hocks onto the handle and you pull, and the same with the strap one. Looks like a tapping of a screw driver works and we have it turning at last Yay! - I type too slowly aswell! LOL @ BenzBoy sounds like my kind of problem solving ;D
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MWF
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Mar 30, 2006 14:20:39 GMT
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I assume stabbing it with the screwdriver has resulted in a torn up filter and now the strap on can't be used.
I'd continue with slowly tapping it and as it loosens off tighten and untighten it over and over again.
Failing that try sawing a groove into the lip at the bottom of the filter and using a screwdriver and a spanner to try and knock it loose.
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