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As some of you know... Ive been selling up vw wise.. having a change up. The carlton has been brought in as daily... iSH and the loon is gone. The bready is going up for sale asap and then the boat is coming home.... I'm realy having a hankering for somthing just to take to shows... and nice drives.. (old before my time)  Ive allways had a love for standard vanguards... specifically the beetleback shape.... My uncle had one when i was younger and i loved it.... My only concern is the modern usability of it. I.E traffic... I remember even then (early/mid 90's ) that thing was slow... and realy struggled in traffic. It also got realy hot if stopped too long... Its only a 2.0 4 pot with 3 on the tree iirc.... poss 4? I'm wondering what else would slip in there? Would i be wrong to think diesel? i.e tdi, Standard thought ok to do it bitd (tractor engine) but what has a modern tdi and RWD to nick the engine and box from? ... either that or slot a different periodish petrol engine in (not v8  ) Anyone know what the vanguard used engine wise? shared with anything else in better tune? hmmmmm thinking hat.... They arnt too expensive when they can be found either...    hmmm US police car style... brit plates.... (film) imcdb.org/vehicle_55624-Standard-Vanguard-1950.html |
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The first car i remember my Dad having. He reckons he got 100 out of it racing a Rover 2000. I'm sure i have a Dinky toy of it somewhere...
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Brian Damaged
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All Vanguards shared their 20C engines with the Triumph TR2/3/4/4a models as well as the ferguson tractor and Morgan +Fours built between 1950 and 1969, by the time the TR4a bowed out in 1968 it had been bored out to 2138cc and was chucking out 104bhp. Over 200bhp is possible from these engines if you've got deep enough pockets, there are plenty of TR tuning specialists knocking about.
Standard were the first UK manufacturer to offer a diesel-powered passenger car in the UK in 1954. The diesel engine developed a whopping 60bhp, enough to give them a top-whack of just over 65 and a scorching 0-50 time of ermmmm.....31 seconds.
Gearbox-wise a good many of them came fitted with overdrive, I should imagine a TR4 4-speeder/overdrive would fit without much difficulty. It's the same gearbox as was fitted to the 2000/2500 right up until 1977 so there should be plenty about.
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BLOOMING ECK THATS GOOD INFO! cheers mate... and thats made me ... urm... happy  Meaning with good gearbox choice theres not much reason to part with the original block... Some decent fettling could see it performing quite well.. Wonder what kinda suspension they sit on? Guessing not very average...lol A drop and some banded steels or some kindey beans might work quite well in my head? |
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OOh a quick wiki look finds this:
The car used a conventional chassis on which was mounted the American inspired semi-streamlined four door body, which resembles a Plymouth. Suspension was independent at the front with coil springs and a live axle and leaf springs at the rear. Front and rear anti-roll bars were fitted. The brakes were hydraulic with 9 inch (228 mm) drums all round.
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Brian Damaged
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My 1958 Peerless was TR3 based and parts are expensive! If you want to keep it in the family, consider Triumph 2000 stuff for a cheaper alternative.  |
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I remember seeing one in Kent in about 1969 when I was 17 it was dark metalic green and had Rostyle wheels (not Ford ones but 5 spoke) with a sun visor. Always stuck in my mind! Also there were two that I raced with at Peterborough Show ground in Grasstrack racing (now Autograss) in about 1972/3 I raced a Simca 1000. Seem to remember they were quick. Paul
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GavinJ
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This thread has prompted me to get in touch with a mate i've lost touch with over the past year, he had a vanguard project on the go, it was the full works - space frame chassis, twin turbo v8 and plenty of body mods on the go......see pics!    These pics are about 2yrs old now so will be interesting to see how its coming along.... |
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They do have a nice look to them, reminiscent of the Chevy Fleetlines and (closer to home) Jowett Javelins of the time.  A pickup would be pretty darned nice...  One more for luck:  |
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Old Fords never die they just go sideways
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+1, and it's already spatted too, so would probably look rather good with the tail down ;D |
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oooh theres some nice ones here... And yeah spotted the black one on car and classic... does seem like a good price doesnt it... original paint but that all adds to the charm REALY REALY loving the silver racer, god that looks mean... |
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bryn
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A mucho fine choice, it's amazing what can tempt you when the lights come on. I don't have a picture to hand, but I had a Series 1 Estate that I bought after seeing Nick Arlett's, 32V Northstar engined one.... Get it done |
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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I had a Phase 2, due to the short wheelbase and narrowish track it handled like two drunken heifers riding a tandem with flat tyres, Slightly improved by using straight ep140 in the rear shocks, but an old Standard mechanic told me he used to fit grease nipples to the rear shocks back in the day! Dead easy old girls to work on due to their agricutural build, get a 3speed overdrive and once your rolling just keep clicking it in and out of o/d top from about 20mph, stately cruising. Put radials on to stop tramlining, but then you need 2 cans of spinach to park one.
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74 Mk1 Escort 1360, 1971 Vauxhall Victor SL2000 Estate.
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Standard were the first UK manufacturer to offer a diesel-powered passenger car in the UK in 1954. The diesel engine developed a whopping 60bhp, enough to give them a top-whack of just over 65 and a scorching 0-50 time of ermmmm.....31 seconds. Crickey thats 5bhp more than a 1.6 n/a diesel astra/ cavalier and they still keep up with todays traffic. Seems a lot for a 55 year old design. |
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its going to be hellish peaky at that level of tune.
They are awesome looking cars. As stock they are very "vintage" to drive. Either you enjoy that or you get into some serious re-engineering work.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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I think the way i am atm, id be pretty much ok with it standard. Ive been enjoying driving slowly since i started driving the bready again, Simply because i don't like to rag it as its so nice. And its rubbed off on the way i drive the carlton and the bug. Its nice and relaxing...
Although twin carbs and some headwork, custom manifold and exhaust couldnt hurt....haha.... Right... I'm just gonna say it, Ive loved these for a long time.... I'm officially "gonna" get one! lucky the bank offered me a credit card just this morning haha
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stealthstylz
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Bung a 2.5Pi engine and overdrive box in, lots of slam, would look ace. Tony Devy's home made woody was my favourite, though I preferred it when it was on plain steelies and low to how it is in this pic  Matt |
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) Anyone know what the vanguard used engine wise? shared with anything else in better tune?
Meaning with good gearbox choice theres not much reason to part with the original block... Some decent fettling could see it performing quite well.. 
