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Jul 27, 2010 18:18:02 GMT
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my take on these kind of cars is.. the owners arent capable of anything creative or hard work like proper body mods and nice paint jobs , so somehome a few stickers and a roofrack then drag its bum along the floor is all cool n scene I wouldn't say there's no hard work in it - I always found fitting roof bars to these to be quite tricky. You have to get the feet in past the rubber trim strip on the roof to then hook around the captive bolt and it can be really quite stiff. I found a rubber mallet helps a lot... I quite like it. I'd lose the roofrack, and I've never been keen on Vento fronts (not even on the Vento), but I think it looks pretty sharp in white. Yeah, would look good a bit tidier, without the dent in the sill and the slightly ghetto arch rolling, but overall it's quite pleasant. Like a nice slice of Victoria sponge, if you will. Not all that exciting, but you'd have another slice if Gran offered. |
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Loxlee
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Jul 27, 2010 18:33:14 GMT
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Like a nice slice of Victoria sponge, if you will. Not all that exciting, but you'd have another slice if Gran offered. Brilliant! |
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Jul 27, 2010 18:39:44 GMT
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it looks pretty cool, but looked much better in some of its previous guises - theres a load of pics on stanceworks somewhere
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luckygti
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Jul 27, 2010 18:42:42 GMT
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Stu_B
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Jul 27, 2010 21:07:51 GMT
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I like it, it sits well. Doesn't need the roofrack & It might not be groundbreaking but it's pleasing to the eye. It's easy to dismiss things on the internet but I reckon anyone here would get a little bit excited if you saw that rolling down your local high street....
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Acme
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Jul 28, 2010 11:06:31 GMT
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I don't mind the roofrack and the Vento lights/grill looks good to me.
Those rear wheels however are a massive fail imho. I get the whole Euro thing etc but the offset is so out on them its a joke. The camber on them stuck that far out of the arch is silly and looks like one of those caracature model you can now buy from any cheap card shop. Just looks like the wheel is about to fall off.
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Jul 28, 2010 11:48:12 GMT
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not a fan
youve done the 'look' well
but I'm not a fan of this look
reasions?
I'm not a fan of the wide wheels on the back that don't fit even with ovel racing camber, mainly because its not RWD wide rear wheels belong on RWD (just my 50P)
also gotta agree with loxlee, upsized splits look look odd
roofrack is pointless
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this car those wheels (-1" lip on teh back no added camber), have it sitting just off the rubber, no add ons just a mk3 with nice wheels and nice lows
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Jul 28, 2010 15:02:53 GMT
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back in the day dad couldnt wait to get the roofrack off the car after a trip out , whats it gona be next towing mirrors? You obviously never witnessed Stanton's 5dr Mk2. |
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the cars sweet as anythin, the rims are amazin. vento front FTW. its low. i don't get why people don't like it. at least he's not driving some brand new korean white good. lack of original thinking when it comes to cars is the millions of people who buy a ford mondeo and then replace it with a ford mondeo when its two years old. give the guy a break jeebus
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1990 Volkswagen Jetta
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Marmite. There's elements I like about this car, like the dents in the sills that hint at a dedication to lowness, and there's elements I don't, like the wonky back wheels and the roofrack.
I can see what's being done, I can understand that the owner/builder wants their car to look like that and who am I to take away their fun? But I don't think I'll ever like stretched tyres, wonky camber, unnecessary roofracks (with the exception of a few) and such safe modifying.
I'm seeing a lot of repeating of ideas but very little new or unique modifying within the custom scene. Part of the reason I got into a lot of modified cars - led sleds, hot rods, rats, gassers, &c. - is because the ones that grabbed my attention were so different. Cars like the above don't seem different, they just seem homogenous, and as a lover of all things modified, I find that vaguely disappointing since it makes the modifier's work seem somehow lessened when it shouldn't.
TL:DR - I don't love it, but I don't hate it either.
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Stu_B
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Stretched tyres & camber aren't a look... they're what needs to be done to run wide wheels & be silly low.
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Jul 29, 2010 14:39:06 GMT
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Of course it's a look! Why else run big rubber on the back of a gutless FWD!! Half of its not even in contact with the road ffs.
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Stu_B
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Jul 29, 2010 14:41:00 GMT
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It's 5 stud so either a GTi or a VR, hardly gutless... but it is a tubby mk3 so you could be right  I'm talking about stretch & camber in general, not about running bigger offsets & tyres on the rear. |
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Jul 29, 2010 14:49:18 GMT
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Surely though if you want to run wide wheels and get any advantage from doing so, you get tyres to fit? Otherwise you might as well be running bike tyres on a car and that's just expensive and stupid. As for camber... I don't find it aesthetically pleasing and I can't imagine it does anything to improve handling, comfort, speed or braking.
As far as I can see, stretch and camber is a game, it's a way of saying to your mates "Look how wide my wheels are!" without having to get the power tools out to make them fit properly.
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Jul 29, 2010 14:50:40 GMT
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back in the day dad couldnt wait to get the roofrack off the car after a trip out , whats it gona be next towing mirrors? ;D RR 2030 - Thule Roof Boxes FTW! |
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Stu_B
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Jul 29, 2010 14:55:42 GMT
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I run camber so I can get my wheels tucked in my arches, without camber I wouldn't be able to run as low, I'll be getting smaller tyres soon to go lower again. The look is low, camber & stretch is how I'll achieve it. I have already rolled my arches & cut as much out as I can...
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MrSpeedy
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Jul 29, 2010 17:58:01 GMT
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'Sensible' amounts of neg camber do improve the road holding in corners, but only on properly set up cars that are driven hard in corners, and I DO mean sensible amounts ! When I changed the ball joints on the front of my MK1 Golf GTi, I set the front struts to maximum neg camber and I genuinely noticed a better grip in the twisty bits, however I also noticed a drop in straight line stability ! However, I digress. The car we are 'discussing' here has camber purely for 'the look'. (and maybe to give another 5mm clearance for his rim/tyre combo, but I can't see him gaining anymore than that tbh !) His choice. When i finally get the Vitesse back on the road, it too will be running more neg camber than usual, but mostly down to the design of the suspension it has and how it changes when slammed on it's  ! (The fact that i like a little camber is irrelevant your honour !) |
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