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I think its silly because its all for showing "ooo, i curse word cash, ooo, i got more than you!" and no love for the cars it seems.. If that were true they'd be doing it to modern day cars... when in fact they are doing it to 70's yank-barges!
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Last Edit: Mar 22, 2006 8:34:11 GMT by HoTWire
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Its not something I would do myself, but each to their own.
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Some people would say the same about 30-year-old Datsuns or Fords... *n 33 year old Datsun... ;o) The kids building these donks have to put in 500+ hp motors just to counteract the overgearing. Hotwire's reasoning is the closest I've seen to justifying these rediculous monstrosities, but I guess I'll never understand - actually, I don't want to understand. Stoopid Americans
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There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes
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Not the kind of thing I'd want to be seen in but I respect the one-up-manship of it all. Surprised at the negative reaction its got here.
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Well, theres what ever floats you r boat but really just 'cos someone decides to do it with a car thats old/american/V8 powered doesn't make it cool. There seems to be a school of thought that says anyone who does anything with an old car is automatically cool regardless of the taste or lack thereof involved. Some people here are simply pointing that the line has been crossed!
Theres a lot of pointless and stupid stuff done with cars old and new. It doesn't take a lot of descernment to spot the stupid ones.
To me its a bunch of easily led people who are easily parted from their cash - lets not get into the "jesus look at their clothes" element of it either. Because you don't want to see what passes for fashion in my house either I guess.
Mods to a car should work with it, not against it. This donks business is max power mentallity modding and it sucks.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mods to a car should work with it, not against it. This donks business is max power mentallity modding and it sucks. But THATS the point.. it's not... it's done with a wry smile, which is something I've not seen evident in the Max Power community for a long time. Something can be ridiculous and cool at the same time as far as I'm concerned. Low riders are ridiculous, Boso/Garuchan J-cars are ridiculous, donks are ridiculous, ratlook is ridiculous, stretched tyres are ridiculous. They are all varying degrees of cool as far as I'm concerned. I'd probably never own or build a donk, but I'd damn well shake the hand of the person who did.
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Mar 22, 2006 10:08:42 GMT
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I made one!!!
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Mar 22, 2006 11:01:54 GMT
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Mods to a car should work with it, not against it. This donks business is max power mentallity modding and it sucks. Irrespective of your opinion, can you not appreciate good engineering work and damn good paintwork? Look at Max Power - some of the stuff they feature is absolutely FANTASTIC in terms of development and engineering...Was it last month when they had an Audi TT-nosed Saxo on the cover? It looked seamless. Although it isn't 'my kind of thing', I certainly take my hat off to the ingenuity and the bodywork prowess of whomever did that. *n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Jack it up yo'!BenzBoy
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Mar 22, 2006 11:31:46 GMT
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I like this thread! It's challenging my own way of thinking about modified cars, which has to be a good thing. I still don't really like 'em - which isn't to say I don't appreciate them - but then there are a lot of retro cars which have been modded in a way I don't like. I'm not particularly into custom Model-T Fords for instance, but I still appreciate them for the work that has gone into them, and for the builder realizing his vision. I'd love to see underneath one of these motors at what kind of engineering has gone into getting those alloys to fit!
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Mar 22, 2006 11:46:07 GMT
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I really like the comedy aspect that they had to have big rims innit, so jacked the car to accomodate. I think i support and like it if it is all tongue in cheek which i suspect it is, and love subtle aswell as zany customs. But if its linked with gangsters etc and is 'serious' i could easily go off the idea. Could never imagine me doing it, but it is giving me some ideas...
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Mar 22, 2006 13:03:03 GMT
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Mods to a car should work with it, not against it. This donks business is max power mentallity modding and it sucks. But THATS the point.. it's not... it's done with a wry smile, which is something I've not seen evident in the Max Power community for a long time. Something can be ridiculous and cool at the same time as far as I'm concerned. Low riders are ridiculous, Boso/Garuchan J-cars are ridiculous, donks are ridiculous, ratlook is ridiculous, stretched tyres are ridiculous. They are all varying degrees of cool as far as I'm concerned. I'd probably never own or build a donk, but I'd damn well shake the hand of the person who did. Well said that man.
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Mar 22, 2006 20:40:22 GMT
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I'd like to see a mk2 Golf Country syncro done in this style...photoshop anyone?
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You've been telling me you were a genius since you were seventeen ... in all the time I've known you I still don't know what you mean !
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Jack it up yo'!Davenger
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Mar 22, 2006 21:17:30 GMT
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Not my cup of tea, but each to thier own. If we all liked the same stuff we'd all be driving identical cars and be bored senseless.
I have to say though, I did laugh because some of those wheels are probably worth more than the cars they're bolted to, but we get that here too.
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Mar 22, 2006 22:04:39 GMT
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Not my cup of tea, but each to thier own. If we all liked the same stuff we'd all be driving identical cars and be bored senseless. I have to say though, I did laugh because some of those wheels are probably worth more than the cars they're bolted to, but we get that here too. You're right there, I've seen sets of 7x13 Wellers like mine going for a hundred quid at autojumbles, you couldn't sell my Imp for half that the way it is at the moment! ;D ;D
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"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
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Mar 22, 2006 23:07:17 GMT
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i do have to wonder if sometimes people on this forum, say they like stuff just because it goes against the grain and general consensus?
this donk business, doesnt really float my boat in anyway shape or form, i find it a bit pointless....and before someone jumps in, yes half of the stuff on here is totally utterely pointless to do (fablon/paintin cars with red oxide that don't need painting) but at least that stuff is cheap. and thats what i judge things on. how cheap i could do them, if i could buy some of these 28" or whatever rims, for £50 i would maybe consider building one of them things for a laugh, but seeing as i imagine one of those wheels costs more than all my current cars added together then i doubt it.
also tall skinny wheels as a rule of thumb, suck the fat one.
anyway. yeh my opinions on stuff are always based on my bank account haha
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
this weeks car count "5"
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this donk business, doesnt really float my boat in anyway shape or form, i find it a bit pointless....and before someone jumps in, yes half of the stuff on here is totally utterely pointless to do (fablon/paintin cars with red oxide that don't need painting) but at least that stuff is cheap. and thats what i judge things on. how cheap i could do them, if i could buy some of these 28" or whatever rims, for £50 i would maybe consider building one of them things for a laugh, but seeing as i imagine one of those wheels costs more than all my current cars added together then i doubt it. I saw on another forum when looking for pictures of them last year that someone had put up their build cost... The car was $500, the wheels were $1,500 .. then with a bit of spraying (which I think they did themselves) and some engine work to actually turn the wheels it all came to about $4,500 .. so about £2,500 ... Which is pretty reasonable ...
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Mar 23, 2006 10:27:25 GMT
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Not really my cup 'o tea, TBH... I recon a car with that much ground clearance should have either: A: A straight tube front axle with spindle-mount 12 spokes, and pie crust slicks sticking out of the rear arches, or B: 4 wheel drive, a roll bar with lots of spotlights on and a coating of mud... But, each to their own, and all that... Blimey, I must be mellowing out in my old age...
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... the only injury I sustained was a bumped head when I let the seatbelt of without realizing the car was upside down and that's not really the car's fault.
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Mar 23, 2006 18:52:06 GMT
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Mods to a car should work with it, not against it. This donks business is max power mentallity modding and it sucks. Irrespective of your opinion, can you not appreciate good engineering work and damn good paintwork? Look at Max Power - some of the stuff they feature is absolutely FANTASTIC in terms of development and engineering...Was it last month when they had an Audi TT-nosed Saxo on the cover? It looked seamless. Although it isn't 'my kind of thing', I certainly take my hat off to the ingenuity and the bodywork prowess of whomever did that. *n Yes. Theres lots of cars about that "ain't my thing" and I can appreciate the well thought out engineering that went into them. Good engineering that makes them faster, safer, better handling, more rewarding to drive, more comfortable even, or even just bringing some old classic up to modern driving standards. And I'd include modern modified hatchbacks in that score too. So long as they are well done. I've seen a lot that arn't, and claimed to be "feature cars", but I don;t get those maagzines so I don't know. Regardless of how "well" that donk kind of modification is done, its still crappy engineering, because its making the car's dynamics significantly worse than they started out and lets face it someof those old yank barges didn't start out with an awful lot of dynamics to start with... Theres some "show only" cars I can appreciate. Possies' Thunder Road for example probably doesn't get driven anywhere, and its an excercise in automotive art. And theres home build stuff which is just as whacky, if not more so that crops up from time to time. Fine, whether its my cup of tea or not, like that scratchbuilt Volvo coupe that looks like a Plymouth Prowler. Awesome work, total respect, but when it comes down to it I wouldn't want it in my garage. Sticking a 2x4 box frame under a full frame car and putting 30" rollers on it and paying someone to waft some bright gawdy mess of a paint job over it is not the highlight of vehicle modding, IMO. I've seen a few in more detail on yank forums and on a lot of them the quality of the work is pretty poor anyway. If any of the chassis or body mounts are in the way, just cut 'em off with a sawzall. Nice. Remember a lot of US states have no MOT test! I've seem some damn impressive moddified 70s / 80s yanks. Seen one guy (in a magazine) who built a late 70s Cadillac Coupe DeVille up for road course racing and it won Real Street Challenge a couple of years ago up against some serious high $$$$ modified cars. Loads of scratch fabbed mods as theres no handling kit for a Caddy! And it was comfy enough to still use as a daily driver. Now that makes me take my hat off and say "dude you are a God amongst men". Those daft jacked up monstrositys just make me think "dumbass". Just cos its shiny looking in a photo doesn't make it a well engineered and safe car.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 23, 2006 19:01:16 GMT
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this donk business, doesnt really float my boat in anyway shape or form, i find it a bit pointless....and before someone jumps in, yes half of the stuff on here is totally utterely pointless to do (fablon/paintin cars with red oxide that don't need painting) but at least that stuff is cheap. and thats what i judge things on. how cheap i could do them, if i could buy some of these 28" or whatever rims, for £50 i would maybe consider building one of them things for a laugh, but seeing as i imagine one of those wheels costs more than all my current cars added together then i doubt it. I saw on another forum when looking for pictures of them last year that someone had put up their build cost... The car was $500, the wheels were $1,500 .. then with a bit of spraying (which I think they did themselves) and some engine work to actually turn the wheels it all came to about $4,500 .. so about £2,500 ... Which is pretty reasonable ... i'd be interested to see the build up thread tbh, just to see what goes into it. but it breaks my number one rule anyway, the wheels cost too much. now if he had hand carved the wheels himself i would applaud him and ask him to do me some so i can sell them on ebay
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
this weeks car count "5"
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