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Feb 13, 2010 13:32:38 GMT
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evening ladies, abit of advice needed! my 79 1.6 cortina is making some bad grinding noises when i push the clutch down to full travel, the car will still go in gear, and the noise stops when i allow the clutch pedal to come up to biting point, as far as i can hear it doesnt make any bad noises once its in gear. ive tried having the car running and pulling the clutch arm on the back of the engine to full travel, and it still makes the same noise, so that should rule out the actual clutch cable. is it time to chuck out the 1.6 and put the 2.0 ive got into it? any advice will be listend to, but maybe not acted on cheers.
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Feb 13, 2010 13:50:42 GMT
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The release bearing is going! Release bearing, yesterday: When you take it out, it'll be dry and it'll probably fall to bits and rain ball bearings down.
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Feb 13, 2010 13:55:23 GMT
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Yep,does sound like a release bearing. You can get similar nasty noises from input shaft or layshaft bearings but that would tend to make a noise once your'e in gear and rolling too.
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Feb 13, 2010 14:00:54 GMT
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hmmm, any idea how hard/easy they are to do on a tina? done one on a couple of other engines but nowt rwd
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Feb 13, 2010 14:15:19 GMT
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Its fairly easy on a Pinto Capri once you've dropped the g/box,should be much the same on a Tina.
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Feb 13, 2010 14:34:13 GMT
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Hey dude, piece of wee. Drop the propshaft (mark which way round its bolted to diff using tippex or something) undo gearbox to bellhousing bolts and drop starter motor off. Your best off taking the stick off the box too so you can drop it through the hole easily. Reckon with a couple of tea breaks you'll have it done in a few hours. Gearbox is heavy though so stick a hydrualic trolley jack under it before you pull it off unless you have popeye arms. Also the gearbox oil stinks to high heaven and you can never get it out of your clothes so bear that in mind! Check your clutch pedal ratchet on your tina though might be worth doing that at the same time (not that its a box off job but its a PITA and best to get out the way whilst your working on it coz one day it'll go and you'll be curse word off! Gearbox is more of a pain to get back on you may need a hand, best method Ive found is to solidly support its weight with jack or stand with the spline roughly in place and push it heftily from the tailshaft end whilst knocking it side to side and it 'should' slide back on. Also make sure you have axle stands as there is a lot of pushing and shoving getting it back on!! Good luck
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Feb 13, 2010 14:47:50 GMT
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When putting the box back...As daveyboy says they are heavy.I supported with a trolley jack but i also looped a rope round the box and up through the gearshift hole.Then a strong piece of wood across the top of the tunnel through the loop.I found that worked well as it was supported in both ways and i could wiggle and push it around ok.Managed to do it on my own that way.
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Feb 13, 2010 14:47:55 GMT
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^^ yeah, as above.. It isn't a hard job but it is a fairly long and messy one All I have to add is 3 things. First, don't forget to disconnect the battery (starter motor lead is always live...) Second, when you drop the prop off mark the centre carrier to body position as well as the back flange (also make sure any shims under the centre carrier end up back where they were) Third, take the gearstick off before you start (It will NOT clear the tunnel without breaking..) lift the boot inside the car, bend up the metal tabs and unscrew the plastic ball with pipe grips and a rag. (NB, they are often stuck and sometimes break. I have spares) easiest way to get the box back on is to have a mate ready to screw in a bolt when it slides on. Nothing worse than lining it up only to have it slip back while you are fumbling for a bolt The plate between the engine and box can be a pita here too, it falls off while you are heaving the box in, and gets in the way (some people just chuck it, I tend to use copper grease to stick it to the engine)
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Feb 13, 2010 15:06:18 GMT
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cheers for all the advice, sounds easy enuff 2 do, i can live with heavy and dirty, been there done it , i just don't like overly technical! i know its a realy longshot but no1 has a part number, (violet in particular) so i can order the bearing? don't fancy shelling out for a full clutch/bearing etc kit when i don't need 2.
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Feb 13, 2010 18:18:56 GMT
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whilst you got the box out stick a finger into the clutch an see how the spigot bearing feels in the end f the crank.. these can cause funny noises as well.. (although I do agree its 99% likely to be clutch release bearing)
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Feb 13, 2010 21:37:20 GMT
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TBH, while you've got the 'box down I'd stick a new clutch in. If the release bearing has failed it's brobably due for one, and if you shop around you probably won't pay that much more for a 3-peice kit.
(and the knackered bearing has probably chewed up the fingers on the presure plate anyway... ;D)
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... the only injury I sustained was a bumped head when I let the seatbelt of without realizing the car was upside down and that's not really the car's fault.
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Feb 21, 2010 10:30:56 GMT
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cheers for all the replys, managed to get it done yesterday, changed clutch and bearing, and its solved the problem! all the advice came in usefull, and my only point id add for anyone doing it in future is to drop the exhaust down before you take the gearbox of other than that it went smoothly. thanks again
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