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Good to see you were able to get some spannering time in on the Bond bro! Thats spindle is very worn, glad it's just the spindle though as it means you're able to rebuild them as you're doing, should save you looking for replacements! Good that you've got the wheel nuts for the slots too! Be great to see them on
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Cheers Steve! Yea I'm getting there with it, sorting the carbs will be a big relief. If it's not lack of cash, it's lack of time stopping me! ;D
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The evenings are staying lighter longer now, time will come Love this motor, a proper oddball car (in a good way of course) How about Kawasaki Ninja green? now thats a bold colour. I think Fiat do a similar shade.
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May 11, 2010 22:17:54 GMT
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Good job on the carbs. If you want longer wheel studs try freelander studs. They fit nicely without fouling the wheel cylinders on the rear, you can fit them without pulling the hubs but they are M12 thread. ( same as later ford I think) so you will need new nuts. Went this route after breaking longer 3/8 studs.
Ade
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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May 12, 2010 13:54:47 GMT
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Cheers guys. The paint will definitely have to be cheap and cheerful, but I'm really going to try to do it this summer while it's warm(ish). Like the Kwakka green idea! ;D I looked at Freelander studs, they are threaded all the way down whereas these MGF / R100 studs aren't, which can cause problems with steel wheels as the nuts bottom out! Shouldn't be a problem with the Slotmags though. These studs are M12x1.5 too, so some Ford taper seat wheelnuts will be gathered from the scrappy. These studs fit well apparently (although some say Freelander ones fit "better"). I'll have the hubs apart anyway so I can fit them then. I had hoped to get to the Bond Owner's Club National event at the end of May but I don't know if the car will be ready.
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LowStandards
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May 12, 2010 15:23:33 GMT
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Dean,
I've got 5 litres of 2k bright orange in the garage, would look sweet in that...
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May 12, 2010 15:37:53 GMT
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Hi, your car being a '67 will have the Mk1 engine (2000). A Mk2 engine (2000 or 2500) is not a direct replacement, different manifolds, also different mounting points to the GT6/Vitesse (Bond), they can be made to fit though. The gearbox is also different.
Hope this helps.
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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May 12, 2010 16:37:12 GMT
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Phil - Orange! I hadn't thought of that... could be very cool! How much do you want for it? I'm not in a position to buy at the moment, but for future reference... I'll also ask my paint sprayer (Alistair!) about laying 2k as we've only discussed celly and enamel. steadyg - this Bond is a bit of a hotch-potch. The car should have a 1300 Spit engine, but someone at some point put in an early 1600 Vitesse engine, with later 1600 twin Strombergs! Engine swaps are definitely on the back burner for now, but I'll keep your advice in mind!
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Last Edit: May 12, 2010 16:38:21 GMT by BenzBoy
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LowStandards
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May 12, 2010 18:34:27 GMT
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Its very very very bright, err I bought it for this Its brighter than in the pics, it was a dull day! Come grab it, you can have it for nowt, I just wanna rob half a litre or less so I can spray my Orange Patriot frame... Its deadly stuff though, possibly the scariest list of cyanoacrylate's i've ever seen, still, it'll never come off once its on ;D **Edit for AK** Its possibly the easiest paint i've ever sprayed, you could literally spit it at the panels, leave it 5 mins and it'll still give a mint finish!!! Prob summat to do with the death it contains??
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Seth
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May 12, 2010 18:37:49 GMT
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That colour would suit it really well Carb spindle looks well worn. The body OK? New spindles will make a massive difference anyway
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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May 13, 2010 15:59:05 GMT
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Phil - I consulted Grand Wizard of the Paint Akku, and after buying the catalyst and reducer, it might send me over the very small budget. Plus I'm not sure if I'm brave enough for orange! ;D Thanks for the kind offer though mate. Seth - I moved the spindle along to an unworn section and there was some very very slight play there - I'm not sure how much is normal. It'll certainly be better than before though!
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Jul 31, 2010 22:22:52 GMT
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Hmm, long time no work. I've finally got some time to spend sorting out the Bond. I've been using donttellhimpike's Celeste for the past couple of months, but now its sale is imminent, I thought I best get my 'arris in gear and fix the bleedin' thing. First things first, I went to get the throttle spindles. My trip to D&B Carburettors was an interesting one - these cars were being worked on there... I don't know what they are (apart from the Spit), but they looked damn cool. I wish I'd got a better pic of the green one. ^ Spindles, yay! Well, my excitement was dampened this evening when it transpired one of the spindles is wrong. I'll have to go back on Monday. Second disaster of the day was me snapping one of the float hinge posts in a moment of clumsiness. I'd taken the screws out of the float bowl and then tried to undo the jet nut (should have done the jet first). The float bowl twisted around and... snap... ^ @#*$. After researching what the hell I could use to fix it, with some wise words from Scaryoldcortina, I was assured that epoxy was fuelproof. Araldite say their product is fuel proof, but don't recommend it to be used on safety critical things like carburettor floats. Meh, either it is fuel proof or it ain't. Sounds like lawyer-speak to me. ^ Fixed. ^ Tonka12 kindly gave me a set of Strombergs off a Saab, which were delivered by Bignut today. I was hoping they would be the same so I could use the bodies. Alas, they are quite different - modified castings, automatic choke mechanisms, various improvements and changes... I would be in for a world of pain I think. I'm going to rebuild that set as I'm sure they will be useful at some point! So, disasters overcome, the carbs are back together. Well, I need to fit the (correct) throttle spindles but they're about there. Tomorrow, if I get the chance I'm going to tackle the front calipers as they are sticking. It'll be driving again after that but I really need to sort out the rear wheel bearing before going any great distance. Plans are in place for paint, parts are being gathered for lowering, and wheel nuts are being sought for the Slotmags, so things might get a bit more exciting soon. Oh and PandaSelecta sent me a Cherry Bomb, so things will be louder too! I need to re-route the ridiculously low exhaust when I lower it, so I thought I might as well have something throaty... ;D My thoughts have been turning to longer term things - the 1600 six is a pretty tired engine, and it might be wise for me to start thinking about a replacement. I'm looking into what would be needed for a 2000 or 2500 straight six swap. It looks as though the gearbox would need to be changed too as the 1600 'box has a smaller input shaft from what I've read. More than likely I'd be looking at an engine and box from a 2000 / 2500 saloon (cheaper, more available) but I need to find out if I'm going to encounter problems using one of these rather than one from a Vitesse. The sump may need to be changed, for example. I want the swap to be as bolt-in-and-go as possible. I've already got one big conversion on my hands, so a weekend swap would be ideal. More work tomorrow hopefully. I miss driving this daft car.
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Last Edit: Jul 31, 2010 23:24:58 GMT by BenzBoy
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stevea
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Not sure what the differences are between the Vitesse 1600 and 2000 engines, looks like there were a few variations though. The big saloon engines are cantered over by a few degrees, which is why they use a different sump. Personally, I try to go for a two litre MkII GT6 or Vitesse engine, as they will drop straight in and have the best power from factory. A big saloon gearbox will not drop straight into your Bond without mods, they are bigger and longer, have a look at this thread Saloon gearbox into Vitesse
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Thanks Stevea, I've been gathering info on the conversion and apparently, the saloon engines are the same but some of them didn't have the block drilled and tapped to accept the Vitesse engine mounts. My gearbox will apparently fit, but won't last very long with the upped torque, so ideally I need to get a GT6 engine and 'box.
I also need to find an engine and box at a realistic price! ;D
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Seth
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Nice to see some progress again BB
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Yeah I want to get cracking on it. Started on the front brakes today as they were binding for some reason. New seals and flexis should hopefully fix that! I want all the mechanicals out of the way so I can start making it look better! ;D
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Excellent. Glad it's coming along again. I replaced the rear hoses as there was binding going on at that end too. It's suffering from many years of doing sod all mileage. Engine plans sound great - a different gearbox is definitely needed though. With a bigger engine, it'd probably top the ton - but you'd be doing about 10,000rpm! With a bigger engine and an overdrive 'box, it'd be insanely quick and a lot more relaxing at speed.
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What about a 4 pot dolly engine and box?
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stevea
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... apparently, the saloon engines are the same but some of them didn't have the block drilled and tapped to accept the Vitesse engine mounts........ Those saloon blocks were only used on the very early two litre engines, all later engines (full width head) had the mounting points on the side of the block. I'd advise against using a early engine as good parts are harder find and it gives you less scope for tuning.
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My trip to D&B Carburettors was an interesting one - these cars were being worked on there... I don't know what they are (apart from the Spit), but they looked damn cool. I wish I'd got a better pic of the green one. Green one is a Ford Pilot, so probably has a V8 under the bonnet. The other one is a mid-30s Riley, possibly an IMP, but I'm not sure on that. The big give away for the vintage sports being a Riley is the widow-peak grille and the diamond Riley badge. Google isn't really helping me that much on tracking down just what the Riley is. Interesting build, glad to see the Bond got saved as it would have been criminal to crush something so unusual.
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