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May 19, 2012 20:19:27 GMT
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Tony, I just wanted to repeat what many others have said about the fantastic stuff that you have posted on here - thank you very much indeed. I enjoy fabricating but my abilities are pretty limited. I will be investing in a folding machine on Monday, so that will help immensely. I just wondered if you might consider posting a detailed plan for your own metal folder. It would make life a lot easier to have something like that to hand as well (in my humble opinion anyway). All the best. Ken Ken Here you go Ken retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=usetharch&thread=70135&page=3#973572Make sure you let us know how you get on |
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May 21, 2012 21:22:53 GMT
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Brilliant. Thanks Tony. Will do.
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Hi Tony
Being new to this site I must just say what an inspiration you have been to anyone who wants to have a go at restoring any type of car,
I have started to restore my very first project a 1963 Vauxhall Victor
deluxe.Unfortunately I have made a fatal error,I have cut away the
inner wings cleared up but but forgot to take the measurements,
( getting to excited about the project). Do you have the measurements for the inner wing panels you made on your forum please?
PHIL.
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hairymel
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Making panels.......hairymel
@hairymel
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May 31, 2012 21:11:27 GMT
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i recently repaired a bit of rotten bit of wing rail - without taking pictures as i had forgotten to take my workshop camera  it was so successful for me i went back and did a quick run through so the pics are a bit staged  rotten wing rail section  because of the shape of the section and the lack of a sharpie i decided to try a technique shamelessly stolen from an episode of american chopper  jnr was making a template to fill a hole using duct tape, i used masking tape as i had some to hand.  trimmed the edges flush with a stanley blade  cut out the wing fixing hole and trimmed to the size i was going to chop out. the blade cuts also marked the rail so i knew where to cut out the rot  peeled off and stuck to a bit of zintec  i then cut out the repair piece with snips, drilled out the ends of the mounting hole and shaped with a file. I chopped out the rusty section then welded in the new piece and ground it all back. sorry no pics for this bit but the finished repair is better than i normally achieve ;D  hope this is of help to someone |
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Hi Tony Being new to this site I must just say what an inspiration you have been to anyone who wants to have a go at restoring any type of car, I have started to restore my very first project a 1963 Vauxhall Victor deluxe.Unfortunately I have made a fatal error,I have cut away the inner wings cleared up but but forgot to take the measurements, ( getting to excited about the project). Do you have the measurements for the inner wing panels you made on your forum please? PHIL. Phil Sorry, I didn't take a note of any of the sizes, if you can let me know what sizes you need, I can see if I can get them from Gordon for you |
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Making panels.......Robinxr4i
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Jun 15, 2012 14:25:15 GMT
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Hugely inspiring thread, seeing a lot of this has made me pluck up the courage to try a bit of fabrication and welding myself. Although my efforts are no where near the level of the stuff here. It is fun and rewarding  |
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jun 15, 2012 17:31:01 GMT
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Great thread this ,Fabricator welder /Sheet metal trained myself and theres always somthing to learn no matter how much you know theres always more to learn from others |
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Jun 18, 2012 10:28:32 GMT
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Just been catching up on this thread - how have I missed this over the last 2 years!!! However I now feel inspired to have a go and starting making some of my own to a good standard(not the awful patching I may have been tempted with!!). Only need bucket loads more patience, a trace of talent and some 0.6mm wire(oh why when I have 10kg of 0.8mm in stock!!) now. However I would like to call upon the fine wisdom of RR with regards to how to approach this inner wing on the Trafic - it's not the sharper bends but combination of curves I'm a bit stumped with how to go about forming - would a section repair be better - forming off the vehicle and then fitting? Any thoughts and assistance would be greatly appreciated.    Once agin many thanks to tonybmw and all the other fantastic contributors on this site for the inspiration and motivation!! |
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Jun 25, 2012 12:20:11 GMT
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OH What A thread ;D ;D My question is How would you go about making one of the external sun-visors that would have been fitted to the rock and roll era cars and also custom vans like the two photos below (clicky for bigger image)   Any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated Kindest regards Martin |
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Just been catching up on this thread - how have I missed this over the last 2 years!!! However I now feel inspired to have a go and starting making some of my own to a good standard(not the awful patching I may have been tempted with!!). Only need bucket loads more patience, a trace of talent and some 0.6mm wire(oh why when I have 10kg of 0.8mm in stock!!) now. However I would like to call upon the fine wisdom of RR with regards to how to approach this inner wing on the Trafic - it's not the sharper bends but combination of curves I'm a bit stumped with how to go about forming - would a section repair be better - forming off the vehicle and then fitting? Any thoughts and assistance would be greatly appreciated. Once agin many thanks to tonybmw and all the other fantastic contributors on this site for the inspiration and motivation!! IronMighty I'd be tempted to make it up on the van in pieces. using card if needed to make a template, create the sloping and curved side first and then cap it off with the flat top, just tack it all together first, and then once your happy, fully weld it Tony |
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OH What A thread ;D ;D My question is How would you go about making one of the external sun-visors that would have been fitted to the rock and roll era cars and also custom vans like the two photos below (clicky for bigger image) Any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated Kindest regards Martin Martin Assuming that your trying to replicate the rolled edge on the front, I would be tempted to buy some round bar the diameter that you need and bend this to create the shape and profile of the front edge, tack this is place and then using card, make some templates and transfer them to the steel Then weld the steel into place, welding to the bar to create the front edge, again tack everything first before welding Then a skim of filler to finish off Tony |
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Jul 21, 2012 20:30:16 GMT
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After a bit of advice, i've been looking at the roof gutter on my datsun and although it looks quite bad down passengers side its mainly the panel that makes the edge with a couple of repairs needed to roof skin. I need to make up about 18 inches of panel to repair it but it has a small radius to it:  The diameter of rounded edge is 2-3mm, i'm not really sure how to remake it, any tips? |
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Jul 31, 2012 17:53:42 GMT
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I've done something similar, though the dimensions aren't the same. Basically I made the first bend to give me an L-shape, like your diagram above but without the curved bit. Then put the short end of the L (the vertical bit in your diagram) pointing down in a vice with a suitable sheet inside it. Mark where you want the inside of the flare to be (the far left of your semi-circle above) and gently shape it downards with a blunt chisel. This (for me at least) but a nice lip on the bottom of the drip rail which is used to clip the trim in place.
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Jul 31, 2012 17:59:35 GMT
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This shows you the section I was making, the bottom part of this piece is your vertical, then a little kink and the horizontal bit, on mine it then bends up again to spot-weld on the outside of the upper quarter panel around the top of the window frame.  |
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Last Edit: Jul 31, 2012 18:00:57 GMT by droopsnoot
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Jul 31, 2012 18:09:01 GMT
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To clarify, this is what I mean:  Leave the gap shown to give you somewhere to tap the long edge down to produce the edge. It will take some practice - I was making one for about 2' length, I made it in short lengths like that so it cut wastage if/when I went wrong, and also because mine curves around the top of the rear window. |
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Jul 31, 2012 19:20:43 GMT
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Thanks Tony That explains a lot and give me a useful starting point Kindest regards Martin OH What A thread ;D ;D My question is How would you go about making one of the external sun-visors that would have been fitted to the rock and roll era cars and also custom vans like the two photos below (clicky for bigger image) Thank you That explains a lot and gives me some ideas I will update with pics if I ever manage it Regards martin Any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated Kindest regards Martin Martin Assuming that your trying to replicate the rolled edge on the front, I would be tempted to buy some round bar the diameter that you need and bend this to create the shape and profile of the front edge, tack this is place and then using card, make some templates and transfer them to the steel Then weld the steel into place, welding to the bar to create the front edge, again tack everything first before welding Then a skim of filler to finish off Tony |
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75nut
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Sept 20, 2012 12:06:23 GMT
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Hi Tony I've made this panel up to cover my removed wheel well and want to add strengthing to it. I've done this so far placing the panel on a open vice and hitting with a round headed hammer. How can I neaten them up, it has a very bumpy bashed finished??   |
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79 MGB Roadster
88 Saab 900i Convertible
94 MK1 MX5 1.6
05 Volvo V70
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Sept 20, 2012 17:17:20 GMT
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Good effort 75 Nut
What you need to do now is hold a steel block against the raised face, and then hit it again from the inside with your ball pein hammer, this will dress it all down to the same level, keeping the shape but reducing the ripples
You can then also use the ball pein hammer held on the inside and use a flat faced hammer to dress the ripples out from the outside, keep going back and forward over it until you are happy
You can also then go over it with the edge of blunt chisel to further define the edge of the swage if needed
Hope that helps
Tony
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Last Edit: Sept 20, 2012 17:17:56 GMT by tonybmw
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75nut
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Sept 20, 2012 19:15:42 GMT
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Cheers Tony, great info! Wnet back over the thread and saw the tool you made, so I'm going to weld a bit of pipe to some box steel to make a former for the rest.
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