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Aug 25, 2009 17:58:42 GMT
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If I, personally, had to choose which members to 'please', I'd go with the longest standing/highest contributing... but then of course you'd end up with a stagnant pool of a community with a possible shortage of fresh ideas. Which is ultimately what happens with a lot of forums,.. then you end up with cliques,.. and rules,.. and it all becomes a something very stale and narrow minded. It is such a hard balance for the general forum... Readers Rides is difficult because they are the rides of our readers.. some of them are just not very interesting... but I'd expect them to fall down the board... if they don't .. whats the reason? Genuinely interested in why people reply to these posts and what with .. .anyone got any examples? Also on the General board.. I'd be interested to know what people would bin off...
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Aug 25, 2009 18:04:11 GMT
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Retrorides is a state of mind. that is why I joined this forum last year.
just look at my car history. 1994 Fiat Uno 1996 Peugeot 306 2001 Fiat Brava 1996 Rover Mini 1995 Nissan Sunny 1996 Rover Metro
as you can see most of them were made in the mid 90's. the majority of RR members would consider a 306 to be a modern but yet the mini, uno, metro, and even the sunny (?!) have been considered 'retro'.
ITS PURELY ABOUT STYLING.
jeez what is this forum becoming? the next Barryboys? rant over.
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1994 Mazda 323f 1.6i 16v GLX
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Aug 25, 2009 18:06:00 GMT
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its gotta be old pre 85, or old ish pre 1992 say and modified. Like my Primera they're getting rare plus it was slammed over bright red rims, I don't want to read about some chaved up corsa, punto, MKV or VI escort, Astra etc, not the right place. Or anything STD after 1985 unless its rare as hen's teeth.
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Nissan Laurel SOLD BMW E34 Diesel SOLD Toyota Soarer 4.0 V8 SOLD Audi A4 1995 TDI SOLD Peugeot 205 1.9 TD SOLD Lexus IS300 SC
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Aug 25, 2009 18:09:27 GMT
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I think there should be a sub section (if possible) of readers rides for cars made after 1990 or under 20 years old somthing of that description because if you don't want to see the 1994 escort van (sorry for using youas an example) then you don't go on the under 20 year old cars. Thats my oppinion. But I think the whole idea of the forum is that if you "don't want to see the 1994 escort van" then you just don't click on the link. Simples. I've got a 1993 vehicle that seems to fit in here quite well (judging by the feedback at Santa Pod, the Gathering etc....) and many people want one just like it or tell me how cool it is etc..... Do the above views about age now mean it has no place here? It was nominated for Best Retro Rides Car 2008, so figure that one out? Shoving it into a 'sub section' suddenly discriminates and starts to move people out of the forums just because their car isn't 'age worthy' On Retro Rides, I'd much rather see a really nicely/tastefully/well considered modified 1995 car than a bog standard 1970 car which I can find in any classic car forum. Tat & rubbish just drops off in no time. Call it self policing, call it self moderation.....I call it part of Retro Rides.
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2cv4x4
Part of things
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Aug 25, 2009 18:10:49 GMT
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Ok point taken.
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Mike
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Aug 25, 2009 18:11:31 GMT
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Also on the General board.. I'd be interested to know what people would bin off... The 1st page isn't too bad today, the 'What's wrong with interior design?' thread could go though. I've noticed that a lot of the readers rides threads for more modern cars are kept on page one by people repeatedly pointing out that the car isn't 'retro'.
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Last Edit: Aug 25, 2009 18:15:31 GMT by Mike
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Aug 25, 2009 18:19:51 GMT
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+1 ;D
if its late model of old design (mini, sierra) then thats ok but rover? astra?
hmm - imports work cos they don't come here hence different and like soarer interesting dangan mira kei cars etc
0.02p
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Aug 25, 2009 18:23:13 GMT
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first page imho needs to lose the following (no offence to OP's but they have there own place , be it on this forum or another... *Trailer hire in the north east *whats wrong with interior design.. *stolen number plates (sorry fredtransit) but theres a stolen forum bit *'new' cars in readers rides.. (yes this very thread) mainly because its website related and theres a section for that too. off the readers rides : (only one) *1999 punto gt turbo *project strip and rip* thats my two pennys worth, I know we have all broken the rules sometimes,. but its gettin a tad beyond it now, I'm very aware all mods here have there work cut out for em and its up to us to do our part as part of the community, but please people post in the right places..... one last thing, ive noticed this more as i use to only visit this site... i mean comeon!! when its working right its got everything under one roof! retros of all types , great knowledge, great conversation, and a youtube thread but i have found myself having to leave and find those things in otherforums and ive tried random lil threads to get it going again over here, but they seem to fall foul of the threads that don't belong and get swallowed up in page two.... good place to start would be moving this very thread to the website forum.
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Last Edit: Aug 25, 2009 18:26:50 GMT by Guest
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Aug 25, 2009 18:29:09 GMT
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I dunno about anyone else, i like to look deeper than the car, it's age or the mods! I like to read storys! I could spend hours reading about a 1999 mondeo lx with a great story behind it and i could quickly skim over a 1978 summut summut GT that's been a one owner from new 20,000 mile jobbie and never seen the rain.
Neither of mine are retro in the eyes of 90% of folk, a 1988 Fessy and a 1990 Sierra! But they both have a bit of history and both have had hard lives. This was a conversation starter with a couple of folk at RRG, so must interest someone on here!
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Aug 25, 2009 18:35:21 GMT
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As soon as you start stipulating a cut-off year for the Reader's Rides section, you go against what RR is about, and end up embrioled in the interminable and deathly boring "what is retro?" debate. Uninteresting threads on the Reader's Rides section should just drop off the end, but as Mike points out, they get bumped by folk sounding off about why their car shouldn't be on there. I don't think it's a big enough problem to worry about - there are a handful of threads which have raised an eyebrow but I just don't read them, and click on a build thread that looks interesting instead. I don't think anything needs to be done, to be honest.
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Aug 25, 2009 18:45:39 GMT
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I don't think there should be a cut off either. I think the process of natural selection works pretty well as is. I think the fact there is no age limit on the cars is what helps keep it interesting. One of my favourite cars on this site is colonelk's drift cop senator and that's a 94. Would the site be better off without it on the board? I personally don't think so.
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Aug 25, 2009 18:53:47 GMT
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I'm against a cut off date for retro.... as with alot of things this needs to progress.. if we enforced a cut off date what happens a few years down the line when current non retro is retro... I do on the otherhand think the general board needs looking at.... too many random questions... and wanted ads covered in a "retro" cover
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Aug 25, 2009 18:56:18 GMT
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Another vote for letting self policing work, if its not interesting I don't read it, tbh I rarely go into Reader Rides, I tend to have a blitz and rattle through a few pages of it every so often bypassing the threads that don't interest me. As for this thread....
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Raoul Duke
Part of things
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Aug 25, 2009 18:57:51 GMT
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FWIW, I totally understand where people are coming from that say RR has 'lost' something recently... I've not been here as long as some, but i've noticed a swing in the general content, plus certain members are conspicuous by their absence (not just the ones that stormed out in a huff, either...)
Face it, forums never, ever, stay the same for long. Sometimes they change for the better, sometimes for the worse, sometimes things come full circle, sometimes they don't. Ultimately, there will always be ways to connect with real people (and I didn't feel this year's Gathering to be anything less than a perfect reflection of the whole RR ethos as I felt it when I first came here), and if you can't deal with a few changes in cyberspace then you have some serious social issues to resolve.
In other words, MEH ;D
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...a redder shade of neck on a whiter shade of trash...
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Aug 25, 2009 19:07:32 GMT
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The thing is that the people that complain about the lack of content are the very people that should be leading by example and posting up things that interest them, it is that what guides the forums general atmosphere and ensures boring threads dissappear.
It's like "This forum doesn't have any cool stuff in it..." ... "so what have posted up of interest recently?" ... "nothing..." . oh.
You get out what you put in,.. put in nothing,.. guess what you get.
Also if something isn't "retro"* in your opinion in retro rides, please don't reply to the thread to point it out... as that just is a free bump and might drop something more interesting off the bottom of the forum.
*cars over 30 years old right?
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Aug 25, 2009 19:09:16 GMT
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i see your lolcat... and raise you
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Lex
South East
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Aug 25, 2009 19:12:28 GMT
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1999 rover. if I want to see one with no mods except a set of halfords wheels lobbed on (which hasnt actually even been done yet), id go down tescos carpark. LOL Jog on...
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Resto-UKal
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Aug 25, 2009 19:14:36 GMT
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*cars over 30 years old right? that would equate to classics not retros.... tbh I'm finding it hard to put stuff up that doesnt get met with either silence. or PEAROAST.... lets face it , pretty much everythings been seen or posted once... the fact its been posted again give the people who missed it last time as chance to see it... the crowding off other non retro and random non retro threads does detract alot from decent threads... theres been numerous times ive come here looking for updates to a thread ive been following only to go to the second and third pages looking for it.. then to find it was on the first page all along between two copletely irrelivent threads...
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Aug 25, 2009 19:18:00 GMT
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First thing I thought of was say a rolling 20yr cut off... but then I'd miss great stuff like this: now normally I wouldn't look twice at one in the street, but this... well.. and... I also like a good history read as well... Seths Hillman has a great history for example... I love the build threads, Oldbus Capri... never really given them any thought before... but now I want one... Many different things float my boat, and I generally give all threads a once over just in case I miss something epic... but yes there are some threads which I don't see as worthy, I don't get excited about late 80's+ VAG, or BMWs, nothing against them, but as much as those who are into them they probably wouldn't look twice at anything I own/love and that's the great thing about this site, makes it more refreshing than all the single make/model forums that are out there. Then there's such a large difference in age group that what some see as retro others see as nearly new. some one who's 17/18/19 is going to see a 1990 car as retro... Being in my mid thirties I see 1980's cars and older as retro. I don't put readers rides on my cars, as I just guess not many would be interested as a) they're not that old, b) they're not really that modded, c) other similar vehicle threads have sunk almost without trace.
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Full of automotive and culinary delights visit: 1994 Subaru Legacy Estate Turbo 1985 Vauxhall Nova SR 1995 Fiat Cinquecento Sporting
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Lex
South East
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Aug 25, 2009 19:24:39 GMT
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As far as I see it, this thread is more of a waste of space than the select few modern cars in 'Readers Rides'.
I am a 'Reader' of this website which is because I have an interest in retro cars and have owned a retro car for some time now. Some people who are also interested in retro rides that are on here may not be in the position to own what most consider to be a retro car but still want to bring something to the table, and as far as I see it if they have a pleasant car to show for it I am more than happy to have a look and leave a nice comment. A car is a car afterall.
In my Rover thread people have commented about the car and things have been said which means ive learnt something about my car, and at the same time people can see what car I currently have and if they do like what they see they are free to give me a nice comment or maybe a suggestion of what I could do to it next.
Lets face it the ratio of new cars to retro cars on this site is HARDLY at a worrying level, is it?
Oh by the way... Halfords wheels? If you don't have any idea what you're looking at don't put a negative judgement or bad word on someone elses car. My car needed new tires, I didn't like the current wheels so it felt pointless to put new tires on them, so instead I got a set of immaculate alloys with brand new tires on for the same price as a set of tires as far as I am concerned that is a win/win situation.
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Last Edit: Aug 25, 2009 19:25:49 GMT by Lex
Resto-UKal
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