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Mar 27, 2009 17:06:24 GMT
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Hi all I thought I would post a few pictures of the car and the future plans. now the car is not that retro but old enough now to kind of qualify its a 1995 c280 sport manual ive lowered it by chopping the springs using w203 amg springs I have removed the 2 cats and had a 2.5" system installed I have some 17" amg split rims to go on once the rears are built up to 8.5" wide had it on the rollers today to see what it was pushing out before we start the turbo conversion and a video or the run - flames and stuff it made 211.2bhp 210 lbft now the future plans are firstly on the std engine a low boost turbo conversion running around 7-8psi see how well it drives then build a full on 400-500bhp motor over the winter I have ordered a single mass flywheel and uprated clutch that will be able to cope with the new power out put I plan to use a t4 sized turbo and a turbo manifold for a bmw 6 cylinder whihc I'm shore I can make fit I will run the engine on emerald hoepfully thanks for looking ;D
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Last Edit: Apr 2, 2009 20:45:37 GMT by rmad
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Mar 27, 2009 17:22:54 GMT
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Sounds and looks good to me. With your turbo kit, are you going for a setup that will allow for low boost at the moment on the standard engine and then when the new engine is built you can just up the boost and map accordingly?
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Mar 27, 2009 17:26:28 GMT
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Sounds and looks good to me. With your turbo kit, are you going for a setup that will allow for low boost at the moment on the standard engine and then when the new engine is built you can just up the boost and map accordingly? yes i will just limit the boost to around 7psi, then when the engine is rebuilt we can just up the boost to around 1.5-2bar and map accordingly
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Mar 27, 2009 18:30:59 GMT
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looking good mr hurn and welcome!! ;D ....
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300ce lowrider c220 track car c280 youngtimer S320 ...vip no 4 S430 .. 2 x slk 230 500se , E36 amg E 430 E55 amg Ml 320 C43 amg
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Mar 27, 2009 18:34:00 GMT
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looking good mr hurn and welcome!! ;D .... cheers ;D
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Jez
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This looks interesting!
Would that be the same M104 engine that my 95 E280 has?
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tigran
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Excellent, just one of those engine and car combos that i've never ('part from perm) seen fiddled about with or much interesting done with.
Look forward to keeping track.
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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well I thought I would bring this thread up to date, the above 280 was written off when a taxi decided he wanted to sit on the back seat this was 2009. we then searched for over 18 months for another suitable 280 manual, we eventually found 2 I think rayo - bigperm bought the white one and I bought a black one.. (there is one on ebay currently, they seem to pop up like buses none for a while then they all turn up at once). so the project started again this model has an early FBW system ( its the last phase M104 engine c class they did before moving to the v6) it has only covered 66k miles whihc is nice, although the old one had over 160k and still went like a stabbed rat. I bought this from newcastle cheap easy jet flight 500 notes later and I was making my way back to south wales I later found out its a cat c but was repaired by the previous owner back in 2001 via a mercedes dealer not much damaged just a new rear quarter but for what I want the car for the history is irrelevant, its drives straight and true and was inspected by vosa after repair so happy days. it wasnt running right it had a huge vacuum leak but still got me back to wales on 1 tank . it turned out to be the inlet resonance valve which I managed to get of ebay for £19 and order was resumed. since then my brother and I have started all over again with the turbo conversion idea. I have almost everything I need before we finally crack on. we have a proper gt35/t04z dual ball bearing turbo this cost more than the cars purchase price ( it made 700bhp on the lads subaru), aem ecu ;D, 500cc injectors from a mustang, stage 4 clutch from spec in the us ( rated to 525ftlbs), ebay intercooler, turbo exhaust manifold, precision 39mm external wastegate. also ferriday engineering manufactured a decompression plate for me out of an old head gasket, this should lower the cr to a level where we can add some proper boost . the bottoms ends on these engines are very strong all that is needed is a set of rod bolts that I have got from a lad in sweden. he runs a standard m104 at 700bhp with only rod bolts has done for 3 years. brakes - I have fitted cl500 4 pot brembos with slk320 amg 330mm discs, with some goodridge lines, ebc yellow stuff pads, these will be chnaged to carbotech xp10's very soon. power to start with will be around 400 see how the gearbox copes, if it fails whihc I expect it too then a 190 cosworth getrag will be needed. then we can start having some real fun. I would like to max the turbo out eventually the aem ecu is all wired in and working a few little niggles to iron out but almost there, once the clutch arrives the spare flywheel I managed to source from german ebay will go to ttv to have a light weight version made up. also I am in talks with elite transmissions to make me a plated rear diff unit, or depending on price could just weld it up it will have a 3" exhaust system from the turbo thanks to my good friend at welsh coast customs in newport. I will get some pictures up later
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Last Edit: Jan 29, 2012 16:03:49 GMT by garyhurn
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Nov 18, 2011 13:44:23 GMT
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this sounds mental. i love it. keep up the good work
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new brembo cl500 4 pots ferriday engineering decompression plate external wastegate bought some new wheels and got them painted turbo exhaust manifold aem ecu gt35/t04z hybrid from cr turbos made up some water and oil feed lines i do like the interior - shame its getting ripped out. also fitted a new steering wheel
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luckygti
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Nov 19, 2011 10:34:11 GMT
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Great looking car and the plans sound pretty mad. Why turbo and not super? Wouldn't it be fairly straightforward to drop in the kompressor bits from a later Merc? (Not that thgere's anything wrong with "not straightforward"!!!! )
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Nov 19, 2011 10:47:07 GMT
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Great looking car and the plans sound pretty mad. Why turbo and not super? Wouldn't it be fairly straightforward to drop in the kompressor bits from a later Merc? (Not that thgere's anything wrong with "not straightforward"!!!! ) i am not a supercharger fan tbh and its just a project my brother and i set out on a few years ago on the first 280. i love turbos they rock plus i like to go against the norm, not many people turbo these cars but the potential is massive just look at the 24v bmw turbos - mental
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ChasR
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Nov 19, 2011 13:08:19 GMT
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I have never been a massive fan of the W202s but I think you may be slowly changing that .
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Nov 19, 2011 16:39:28 GMT
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Looking good there brother Hurns ....watching this with great interest !!....i'll be starting a thread on the white one in the week and if this all works i'm copying for sure !!.....
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300ce lowrider c220 track car c280 youngtimer S320 ...vip no 4 S430 .. 2 x slk 230 500se , E36 amg E 430 E55 amg Ml 320 C43 amg
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Nov 19, 2011 17:13:22 GMT
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Looking good there brother Hurns ....watching this with great interest !!....i'll be starting a thread on the white one in the week and if this all works i'm copyin It will work and work well mate just wait 8-)the only issue being the strength of the gearbox, but as there are plenty of boxes about I m not worried to much. Stripped the interior earlier, amazing how much weight is saved..... I still need to fit some buckets What are your plans with the white one???
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Nov 21, 2011 18:56:53 GMT
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well started putting the car on a diet removed so much and havent even started on front seats carpets etc oil return fitting for the sump also turned up today so we are good to go just need to find a free weekend to get it all fitted cant wait
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Nov 27, 2011 15:08:12 GMT
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Bit of progress intercooler ordered from eBay -for a skyline but I m sure I can make it fit
Clutch is still awaiting customs clearance, as a result is slowing everything down
Front and rear Pads are being sent off to carbotech to have them relined with xp10 compound... I am not impressed with ebc yellow... stuff pretty poor tbh
Also some new suspension is needed after Christmas
Should have the engine apart in the next few weeks
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bit of an update after 5 weeks and a large customs bill the clutch kit has arrived very happy its a stage 4 6 paddle with uprated pressure plate good for around 470ftlbs should do the job nicely will be starting to fit the bits over the coming weeks, just waiting for a space on one of my friends ramps
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Dec 10, 2011 20:49:52 GMT
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Nice! Great to see more people getting stuck into W202's! I've recently started a track car build on a C230. The turbo idea sounds interesting. Is the clutch a custom job? Not seen Jamie's white C280 yet, looking forward to seeing what happens to that too!
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Dec 11, 2011 14:47:20 GMT
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Nice! Great to see more people getting stuck into W202's! I've recently started a track car build on a C230. The turbo idea sounds interesting. Is the clutch a custom job? Not seen Jamie's white C280 yet, looking forward to seeing what happens to that too! Spec list a full list from stage 1 to 5 This is the stage 4, be wary of import tax I got stung on collection. Should be good fun when it's finished. Rayo wants to turbo his I think he'll see how ours works and if it's ok he'll do similar
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