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chops on the frotn are so easy to get them lower. they'll never fall out of captiveness and will go undetected forever..... I hate the shape of the front inner guarsd. makes wheel choice fairly limited coz you can't roll any extra width into them  rear springs are a weird shape but shorteneing them is doable. need to reshape the top though. if you don't list shocks over there then use rn40 hilux fornts (get the heavy duty ones. mine wallows on normals ) and get the bush in the top of some 1980ish l200 rears changed to suit the CROWN and you've got ~50mm shorter shocks for the rear. if you want proper low you will need an adjustable/shortened panhard rod for the rear or the diff pokes sideways a fair bit. I've got ef falcon steels on the rear of mine and early au ones up front. ef ones rub on the inner guards at front and au ones look weird on the rear so staggered offset is how i've gone. don't get a hint of rubbing and it clips the bumpstops regulary at the front. the rear lh tyre jsut clips the guard lip with 205 wide tyres at the rear..... need to sort that so i can go lower at the back! looks cool on those wheels nonetheless! hope you can get it all fitting nicely  you may be able to add or remove shims up front to crank some camber into it which may suck the tops of the wheels in enough to clear things at full defection and also help keep them within the guards. mine's about 4" lower than 'stock' at the front and it's sucked it in about an extra degree jsut by lowering. |
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Thats great Cam, thanks for the info. Were the pics in your thread taken with the 4" drop? Finding first hand info can be a problem with owning a rare car but that is the second lot I've had this week. I am currently in contact with the owner of this  about getting the springs out of this  Which, with some narrower fronts (and my 14s the black rims are 15s) should be low enough for now. |
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May 26, 2009 10:07:41 GMT
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awesome! perfect choice of wheels!
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cam
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May 26, 2009 12:48:13 GMT
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mines about as low as that one. up a bit at the back though.
uummmm the latest pics are of it at that height. it's too high at the rear though :\
and yeah, fnding relevant info about rare-ish cars is a pain. the reasonably local forums for CROWNs are curse word IMO. I've learnt what little i've learnt by doing.
lol try owning a citroen and trying to mofdify it form what it originally came out as. most people that know anything jsut know abot what bumper came standard on whatm not about the intricacies of the whole deal
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Last Edit: May 26, 2009 12:50:06 GMT by cam
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May 26, 2009 14:16:30 GMT
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The front end is totally mental!!! I love it  Great wheel choice...suits the car very well indeed |
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Enjoy the ride
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Nothing some narrower tyres won't fix. Probably spoke too soon. The CROWN is back in service after the BMW failed to sell and went back into storage. Switched the front 215/65/14s for 195s (the tyres from the stock steel wheels) and there is still rubber outside of the front guards witch results in some (probably manageable/avoidable) rubbing. Current stance is an amusing combination of 70s Japanese sedan, 70s Chrome and 70s radius arched stock car.    I'm fairly convinced that the offset is all wrong on the front wheels and I don't really know how I am going to get around that. |
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Mate that is cool as.....erm cool..... I love it. |
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DutyFreeSaviour
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What's the req'd ET? What's on it? Then spacers possible?
Looks like you'll need to sort out longer studs too if that's the case... but it's definitely worth looking at - the p-shop with the whitewalls and lowered is gorgeous!
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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Don't know the current offset but spacers would be a move in the wrong direction (literally) I need probably a whole inch less dish or less offset (less negative offset witch I guess is more positive offset??)
Tyres at the front are probably 1/2 of an inch outside of the guards.
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gsand
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nice CROWN mate, are you at all interested in selling?
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Everything is for sale, it just comes down to price. I do have a BMW that is definitely up for sale though  |
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DutyFreeSaviour
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Yup - didn' tlook properly. Well, if rolling the arches (a la scaffold pipe) is out of your option list - then I'm stumped mate. Roll the arches and you're covered (literally ) - sorting out the scrubbing, is it obvious where? Can it be 'dressed' back a bit/enough? Depending upon if it's an inner wing or the actual chassis rail... Hope you can get it sorted - I love these things. EDIT *** it only rubs outside? - GO get your scaffold pole!!! mwah ha hahahahahahaha |
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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The problem I see with rolling arches is the front is already wider (or at least it looks like it) than the rear. So rolling the fronts would lead to rolling and spacers/wider tyres at the rear and so starts the spiral.
Next step will probably be to see how easily the inner arch will detach and working out what the one bolt head that rubs on the inside is attached to.
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Wheel Dilemma Update These Dragway wheels, that I thought were going to be a perfect locally available and affordable substitute for Astro Supremes, have turned on me. The front are 14x7 and sit more than an inch outside of the arches. This style also comes in 14x6 but in the same offset so won't be enough to solve the problem. The tyre rubbing was becoming a real annoyance so I had to do something. I didn't have the complete set of the stock steels because I stole 2 tyres to go on the other wheels. Then I thought WWAD? (What Would Akku Do) and this happened   These will provide a temporary solution while I do enough measuring and calculating to avoid buying more wheels that don't fit. |
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Sept 24, 2009 5:55:29 GMT
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So it looks like its back to plan A on the wheels. Won 5 Ford 15x5 steels on ebay for $22.50 (£12) I was a little concern about finding tyres for narrow 15s but as it happens new Minis run 175 65 R15s so this could be a good source of part worns. Test fit   And a quick 'shop (because the old crossplys don't hold air)  So now its back to trying to decide on a colour. I wasn't expecting the white to look as good as it does. Other thoughts so far are Copper and Root Beer but the wheels will need to be stripped first because the rest look like this.  |
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cam
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Sept 24, 2009 21:48:57 GMT
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aren't they 14"? i didn't know ford did a 15x5, let alone in that face style. thsoe look to be the rims off something like an XD falcon.
the reason you're havnig so much problem is that falcons run around a 20p offset, where as the CROWN, especially the fornt, is built to run somewhere around 30-35. couple this with the fact that most people in the 80s used to chuck even lower offset wheels onto falcons etc, you're going to have the problems that you're faced with.
if you're going steels, 15" easrly AU are sweet for the front. .don't rub at all. with 205s they'll maybe JUST rub on the swaybar at full lock if it's lowered substantially.
EF/EL ones on the rear will fill the rear arches a bit better. wont be any good on the front, though (will clip the inner guard)
sucks that they've got different faces though. ef ones look prety staunch but au ones are haggard as.
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Sept 25, 2009 3:23:19 GMT
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the reason you're havnig so much problem is that falcons run around a 20p offset, where as the CROWN, especially the fornt, is built to run somewhere around 30-35. MS65 is 27mm 14x5 from the factory while most Falcons are 6mm. aren't they 14"? I didn't know ford did a 15x5, let alone in that face style. thsoe look to be the rims off something like an XD falcon. The reason you don't recognise these in 15 is probably because they are from a Tank Fairlane from the early 60s. I have a set of 16x4.5 in the same style. if you're going steels, 15" easrly AU are sweet for the front. .don't rub at all. with 205s they'll maybe JUST rub on the swaybar at full lock if it's lowered substantially. EF/EL ones on the rear will fill the rear arches a bit better. wont be any good on the front, though (will clip the inner guard) sucks that they've got different faces though. ef ones look prety staunch but au ones are haggard as. Problem with the modern falcon rims (EF, AU etc) is all those ugly holes. most people in the 80s used to chuck even lower offset wheels onto falcons etc, you're going to have the problems that you're faced with. Spot on, both sets of mags I have tried were 0 offset and far too wide. I have found this Powder Coat  Which (depending on how it looks in the metal) is about the colour I was thinking. Just worried about it being too dark and making the wheels look smaller than they are. |
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gsand
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Sept 25, 2009 6:07:56 GMT
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beige, or powder yellow, baby blue wheels, with wide whitewalls |
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Sept 25, 2009 17:26:46 GMT
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Stunning car - I love these CROWNs |
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cam
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Sept 25, 2009 21:32:37 GMT
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yeah later falcon rims are pretty horrid. flatmate has a set of ef ones on his hiace supercustom that look pretty good though. au ones are filth, sadly. I cover it with moondiscs on my car |
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